Formatting memory cards

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Hi everyone :) Hope you all had a nice Christmas!

I've finally ordered my camera! Should be here tomorrow.

I've read conflicting information (as usual) when googling info on formatting cards. Some articles say format every time you delete images and others say only do it occasionally as it shortens the cards life. So guys which is it?

Thanks
 
I shoot editorial work for a living. I format the card in camera before every single assignment. I've shot hundreds/thousands of assignments on my present Lexar cards without a single hiccup. Hope this helps.













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Hi hotdog321

Thanks for replying and yes it does help thank you.

I love your pics. Especially the bottom 2.

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Hi everyone :) Hope you all had a nice Christmas!

I've finally ordered my camera! Should be here tomorrow.

I've read conflicting information (as usual) when googling info on formatting cards. Some articles say format every time you delete images and others say only do it occasionally as it shortens the cards life. So guys which is it?

Thanks
 
I've been using memory cards since 1998 and almost NEVER format them. I download the pics into my PC using a card reader, then just delete the files the normal way.

Yes, formatting adds a minor amount of extra wear and tear to those bits on the card.
Hi Carey

Thanks for replying and saying how you do things.
 
I've been using memory cards since 1998 and almost NEVER format them. I download the pics into my PC using a card reader, then just delete the files the normal way.

Yes, formatting adds a minor amount of extra wear and tear to those bits on the card.
Do you have any reference that says formatting creates any more "wear & tear" than deleting does? Formatting takes no more time, and unlike simply deleting, it recreates the file & folder system so the card is refreshed for a new shoot.
My understanding is that a typical quick in-camera format actually generates less "wear & tear" then deleting all the files.

To be fair, neither provides a significant amount of wear & tear, so this should not be the determining factor.

A "format" ignores any data that is on the card, and writes a brand new empty directory. On the other hand, when "deleting" files the camera updates the existing directory to mark the files as deleted and the blocks as being available.

In the general case, there should be no practical difference between the two.
To me the significant difference is how they handle a corrupted directory structure on the card. A format will ignore the corruption, and replace the bad directory with a good directory. Deleting tries to work with the corrupted directory, which may make things worse (or better).
Now that is good to know!!
 
Thanx!
 
Same as what others posted. My typical routine:

Shoot images.

When have a chance offload images from card to PC. I use LightRoom, and have it only import new images.

When I put the card back in camera, and it is more than 75% full, I will format it. If not, I let it be - just make sure I got an extra card on me.
Hi scorrpio

Thanks for replying and for explaining your system.
 
Camera manufacturers, memory card manufacturers and a majority of the professionals recommend formatting in the device used (camera in this case).

However, this being an Internet forum, you'll still get those that will tell you their "way" has not caused them a problem.

It is possible that you could pour petrol on your head every and never actually catch fire or suffer adverse effects - however this doesn't make it a good idea.
Hi PhotoSenpai

Thanks for replying.

Yes when I got my camera is said to format the card in the camera.
 
Formatting, in-camera, is the best thing to do.

Realistically, though, anything else you could do (delete all, delete one-by-one, format on computer, etc.) is about 99.9% as good. Fifteen years ago, some cameras had compatibility issues with formatting or deleting on the computer, but those days are long gone -- and those were issues with CF cards, anyway, not SD-type cards (SDXC may be a different critter, since it uses the relatively new exFAT format designed specifically for flash memory).

As far as wearing out the card rewriting it, formatting does one write on each affected block where deleting does one write on each affected block per file, and more blocks could be affected, although I suspect many cameras handle "delete all" the same way they do "format". Even so, the number of people who've experienced worn-out memory cards is probably so small as to be irrelevant. All CF cards came with wear-leveling, and some modern SD-type cards now have it. It's not like you'll probably be using those same cards for decades to come -- they'll be too tiny and slow compared with what'll be coming out a few years down the road.

When deleting individual files, I do make it a point to try to delete only the most recent. That can help if I ever need to recover deleted files because files created after I deleted will be placed in contiguous memory slots in available space, not partly in the "holes" from the deleted file and partly at the beginning of available space. Even so, I think of that as being borderline OCD behavior, since in 15 years of digital photography, I've never actually needed to recover deleted data from a memory card.

It really doesn't matter. But yes, formatting in-camera is the best if that's convenient for you.
 
Hm... I don't think that it matters at all what you do. I admittedly only have a layman's grasp of filesystems and SD cards, but this is my understanding of it:

When people talk about doing a format in-camera, they usually mean a quick format. All this does is empty out the File Allocation Table (or whatever the SD card equivalent is, but I think it's the same terminology as it still uses a bog standard filesystem).

If you manually delete a file from in-camera or a computer, all it does is remove that entry from the File Allocation Table.

Neither operations touch the underlying file structure or the data of the file itself, which is why it is so easy to recover deleted files off SD cards.

A low level format will, overwrite the file data as well as remove the file entry from the allocation table. It doesn't change the filesystem.

Running something like SD Formatter (recommended by various card manufacturers) or formatting from a PC using a different filesystem will rewrite or change the underlying filesystem. Functionally, this is the only method that differs substantially from any of the above methods.

Personally, I do not care what method I use. I randomly both format and low level format from the camera and the PC or occasionaly SD Formatter based purely on what I feel like doing at the time. Sometimes I low level format just because it takes a bit longer so therefore it 'feels' like something is really happening. I've never had a card fail because of filesystem issues.

Whenever I buy a new card, I do use the camera to do an initial format in case the card manufacturer left weird junk on it (which happens with USB thumb drives, but have never noticed this with an SD card).
 
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Hm... I don't think that it matters at all what you do. I admittedly only have a layman's grasp of filesystems and SD cards, but this is my understanding of it:

When people talk about doing a format in-camera, they usually mean a quick format. All this does is empty out the File Allocation Table (or whatever the SD card equivalent is, but I think it's the same terminology as it still uses a bog standard filesystem).

If you manually delete a file from in-camera or a computer, all it does is remove that entry from the File Allocation Table.

Neither operations touch the underlying file structure or the data of the file itself, which is why it is so easy to recover deleted files off SD cards.

A low level format will, overwrite the file data as well as remove the file entry from the allocation table. It doesn't change the filesystem.

Running something like SD Formatter (recommended by various card manufacturers) or formatting from a PC using a different filesystem will rewrite or change the underlying filesystem. Functionally, this is the only method that differs substantially from any of the above methods.

Personally, I do not care what method I use. I randomly both format and low level format from the camera and the PC or occasionaly SD Formatter based purely on what I feel like doing at the time. Sometimes I low level format just because it takes a bit longer so therefore it 'feels' like something is really happening. I've never had a card fail because of filesystem issues.

Whenever I buy a new card, I do use the camera to do an initial format in case the card manufacturer left weird junk on it (which happens with USB thumb drives, but have never noticed this with an SD card).
Hi StIves

Thanks for replying and explaining your interpretation of things. Much appreciated.
 
Hi everyone :) Hope you all had a nice Christmas!

I've finally ordered my camera! Should be here tomorrow.

I've read conflicting information (as usual) when googling info on formatting cards. Some articles say format every time you delete images and others say only do it occasionally as it shortens the cards life. So guys which is it?
Hi Sandra,

I have been formatting the same SmartMedia cards for the last 13 odd years and have never had a problem.

So I shoot pics, fill the card, download the pics into my computer and format the card for the next images.

It seems the most economic way of working.

Mark_A
 

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