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Samsung NX cameras and audio/Mic Input - The reason for the flop in sales of the NX cameras...

Started Dec 15, 2015 | Discussions thread
Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
Re: There are better reasons for the lack of sales
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Kisaha wrote:

Happy Daze wrote:

For instance let’s take the NX500, the first question is would I buy one? Amongst others I have NX300 so it would seem like a natural progression, but I was offended by the typical marketing strategy that once affected another camera I bought the Canon EOS 300D. That strategy is FIRMWARE CRIPPLING, I loath it.

Take a great camera like the NX1 and then using the same sensor and works put it into a different body. Save costs by making the body and mount less robust, take away the EVF remove the mic input, make it obvious that the NX1 is a much better camera hence a higher price. BUT, we really don’t want people buying this camera over the NX1 so now we will f*** it up by reducing the capabilities in firmware, we’ll have to give them 4K but let’s not do the full frame sampling let’s instead introduce a ridiculous crop factor which means that nobody can use it seriously, then they will have to buy the NX1 instead, simples!

There is no doubt in my mind that the NX500 could produce video every bit as good as the NX1 with a simple firmware change, They made some rubbish excuse about a “different engine” which angers me that they expect us to believe that they are going to spend the money on developing a different chip-set from one that already works and probably costs nothing to manufacture after the initial R&D. This made me lose respect for Samsung which is sad because I would have bought one or two NX500’s to back up my NX1, so they lost two sales from me alone.

Personally I don’t care about the audio I would always capture sound separately anyway because then you can source sound from different places and mix it afterwards for much superior results.

Firmware crippling is a terrible waste but an all too common practice by manufacturers and I’m not just talking cameras.

I have a NX300 and a NX500 and the 500 is a much better camera in every sense. The 500 is a perfect B-cam for a set with the NX1.

No EVF. Not perfect at all. Not even EVF possible. It is take it or leave and people leave it. Mostly.

and the crop is an advantage, as you can have a wide shot with the NX1 (in an interview for example) and a close up with the 500, and you can use the 500 as an everyday camera and give the 300 to your kids/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend/friends/niece/cousins/relatives/whatever, or keep it as a camera that you are not afraid to, even, destroy, if you want.

Sure...a real advantage if you own two bodies. The common public does not do this at all. The NX500 si severly crippled by this in 4K too. He is right I think.

One has to be deranged to expect a camera that costs 400-500$ kit to have everything one needs in a camera.

G7 has it all. They did not cripple its 4K output versus GH4, it is even better straight out of the cam! They added an EVF too,same one as in GH4. So how come Samsung didn't do that?

The NX500 video is already very good, I do not understand why it has to be NX1 equiv. as the NX1 video is better than GH4/70D/A6000 cameras, why don't you go complain to their forums, that they do not produce a 500$ camera that does everything perfect.

Because the G7 is the answer here. I think what has been missing in the line up is an NX50. G7 from Samsung. Make it 750 dollar with that EVF and 4K video, lose the weathersealing, get people a 9 fp framerate with C-AF, take the buffer down to say 20 frames in RAW. Look at Panny and therefor give NX1 Vlog. And you are there easily. NX500 on its own has a place, but the gap between NX1 is way too big.

For the price, the NX500 is the best camera right now, and you should get one until it's too late.

G7 might be the best, A6000 might be the best, X-T10 might be the best. Where do you come from is the question. Personally I think G7 is simply a better option. Its 4K video is better and less cropped, swivle screen, excellent EVF and very good sensor. Just a more wellrounded cam if you ask me with a larger buffer too. DFD means great AF under all conditions, also in very poor light, also for C-AF.

With the 12-24 the crop factor is 28,8, which is not that bad for my use, or else you can do PRO full HD or you can go buy the A7Sii or A7Rii.

No way to go lower with Samsung lenses. With Panny you can go to 15 mm (G7 has a smaller crop than GH4 even). Or 19 mm etc. With AF.

Don't take me wrong, I agree with you, but the whole world works in specific ways and utopias are non existent.

The utopia that did not exist was people going for castrated Samsung camera's nor for (to their mind) ones that were priced like a FF Sony. Also  very few people would trade in their DSLR like a D7200 or D71000 for a cam that got them very little size and weight loss, like the NX1. NX1 is a great cam, but could not carve  a niche in todays market because the niches it wanted to fill where way to small customerwise.

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