BOKEH is NOT Out of focus

john isaacs · Dec 2, 2015

This should be obvious

Out of focus is a necessary but not sufficient condition

s_grins · Dec 2, 2015

Bokeh is when people not only think fuzzy, but look fuzzy and speak fuzzy.

For this very reason I do not talk about bokeh.

n3eg · Dec 2, 2015

I'm not nearsighted. My eyes just have good bokeh.

JoeVC · Dec 2, 2015

I like the term "shallowness of focus" when refering to larger formats. People who misuse the term "depth of focus" are, well, out of their depth.

~Joe

Lights · Dec 2, 2015

Bokeh in itself is a somewhat fuzzy term? ;-)

Alex Ethridge · Dec 3, 2015

I started deliberately doing pictures with "background separation" in about 1972. I was absent from pro-grade photography from about 1995 until recently.

When I returned last year, I found someone had changed the name.

Semantics.

photophile · Dec 3, 2015

Its small potato's. I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. The proof is in the pudding (etc)

:-D

Dave Lively · Dec 3, 2015

I agree but we do not get to decide. Words mean what the majority of people think they mean.

Fri13 · Dec 3, 2015

No need to actually do anything else than just use cardboard for bokeh.

Fri13 · Dec 3, 2015

JoeVC said:
I like the term "shallowness of focus" when refering to larger formats. People who misuse the term "depth of focus" are, well, out of their depth.

Sorry, needed to correct you. As they finally got paid their f/1.2 and f/1.4 85mm models....

Fri13 · Dec 3, 2015

smithling said:
Haha. My favorite is, "Full-frame camera has great depth-of-field."

Yes it has, it is 4x better looking one because 4x of the owners has 4x higher acceptance for it.

john isaacs · Dec 3, 2015

photophile said:
Its small potato's. I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. The proof is in the pudding (etc)

:-D

photophile · Dec 3, 2015

john isaacs said:
The proof is in the eating of the pudding.

Yes, but you would be surprised how many people (whose first language is English!) actually say the proof is in the pudding!

Karld70 · Dec 3, 2015

photophile said:
john isaacs said:

The proof is in the eating of the pudding.

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Yes, but you would be surprised how many people (whose first language is English!) actually say the proof is in the pudding!

Guy Parsons · Dec 3, 2015

Karld70 said:
photophile said:

john isaacs said:

The proof is in the eating of the pudding.

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Yes, but you would be surprised how many people (whose first language is English!) actually say the proof is in the pudding!

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cameron2 · Dec 3, 2015

Tom Axford said:
I am constantly amazed at how many self-appointed language police we have on these forums. Fortunately, there are no real language police for English. Words in English mean whatever enough people choose them to mean.

Or, as a famous professional photographer once wrote:

Tom Axford said:
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that's all.'

cameron2 · Dec 3, 2015

dontfret said:
dontfret said:

Tom Axford wrote: Fortunately, there are no real language police for English. Words in English mean whatever enough people choose them to mean.

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“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, "Through the Looking Glass"

onlooker · Dec 3, 2015

bgalb said:
"Bokeh" ranks right up there with "rendering", "presence", and "3D Quality" as ill-defined descriptors.

You forgot "The Leica look".

Paul B Jones · Dec 3, 2015

Bokeh is an anglicized version of the French word "beaucoup". It refers to the delicate cooing sounds made by doves. In photography the word has been adopted as a name for the soft fuzzy background you can achieve by using a fast lens on a full frame camera.

GV27 · Dec 3, 2015

Paul B Jones said:
Bokeh is an anglicized version of the French word "beaucoup". It refers to the delicate cooing sounds made by doves. In photography the word has been adopted as a name for the soft fuzzy background you can achieve by using a fast lens on a full frame camera.

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