Which Platform has better FUTURE? Samsung NX or EOS-M

Rock and Rollei wrote:

Clayton1985 wrote:

Rock and Rollei wrote:

Not sure Sony have really understood that yet either, to be honest, but that's another story - Fuji are doing much better on the lens front, and are much better at producing what photographers need.

Sony probably had the best approach if you want to gain market traction as quickly as possible - with full frame cameras best suited for adapted MF lenses along with A mount and Canon AF compatibility. That strategy allowed Sony to work on the lens selection and they now have a good selection of Zeiss and Sony native lenses. There are still plenty of holes in the native lineup but that is changing fairly quickly. Fuji is doing it right with a more consistent lens lineup but they have taken the longer road to get there. The Fuji X-Pro1 was released about 1 1/2 years before the Sony A7... so to compare the two lens lineups fairly you'd have to compare Sony's lens lineup in August 2017 to the current Fuji lineup. I'd guess that Sony would have 6 to 8 lenses or more by then.

Well despite all the love for Sony on here, what I see among my peers and friends just doesn't match up - people don't like using adaptors, nor do they like being abandoned (A900/850 users), nor do many of them actually like using the A7 models. Some of the cheaper lenses are not very good, the good ones are very expensive. I know 3 people who switched to the A7 series - two pros, one from Canon, the other from Nikon - and one well-heeled amateur. The latter guy is possibly the worst photographer I know; he absolutely loves it, but honestly would be better served with a phone cam. Or by finding another hobby. Both pros absolutely hate the cameras - nothing wrong with the IQ (althought the Canon guy disliked the colours), but the handling and some AF issues drove them both mad.

The former Canon guy is once more a Canon guy - he hadn't sold his lenses, so all he had to do was buy a replacement 5D III - lost a fair bundle on the whole dispose of 5D III - buy and sell A7 whichever - buy 5D III process, but he's happy again. The Nikon guy had sold several of his lenses and bought into the Sony system more thoroughly, so he's hurting a lot more financially and is only part-way through the replacement cycle.

Meanwhile, two guys I know, one with an A900, the other an A850 are trying to decide which way to jump - Nikon or Canon. Both have totally lost faith in Sony.

Now I know my experience probably isn't representative, but I honestly don't know a single pro using the A7 series as of right now. I know 8 using Fujis, either exclusively or to supplement their Nikon or Canon systems. Fuji have launched the right lenses, and bodies that people enjoy using and find easy to use. For me, that's where both Sony and Samsung went badly wrong and betrayed their consumer electronics rather than photography roots - they make/made cameras that are technically excellent, but that people just don't like using much and aren't designed for photographers.

We can all cherry pick negatives about a brand and find "peers and friends" to help support our desired outcome but once you look at a more neutral collection of evidence I think it's pretty obvious that Sony is doing a lot of things right.    The professional reviews, the forum interest, the number of user reviews, image uploads to photo websites....   whatever you want to use provided it is actually fair and reasonably neutral will confirm that people are interested in the Sony mirrorless systems.   That doesn't mean that it's a fit for you or me and I'm sure your buddy prefers a 5DIII but that really means nothing.    I have a friend that hates iPhones so I suppose all the hullabaloo about Apple doesn't match up either.