Real world landscape examples of the detail in M43 vs fullframe?

TN Args wrote:

Sergey_Green wrote:

TN Args wrote:

Sergey_Green wrote:

TN Args wrote:

MidasKiss wrote:

I think ultimately, I'm going to get a M43 camera and work on my technique. Even the used prices for Sony gear are high here in Australia, and with our smaller population and large country size there isn't as much used gear as people might be used to overseas. For the A7II and the Zeiss 55mm F1.8 the cheapest (on sale) price is still around $2700, which is around $1200 more than an EM1+12-40 pro kit, which is a lot of money that could be put towards the olympus 75, 45, 60mm macro etc.

I made a related comment in another thread:

A Canon 5DIII with 24-70 and 70-200 f/2.8 lenses (yer basic travel kit) weighs 3250 grams and costs $6300.

A GX8 with 12-35 and 35-100 f/2.8 lenses weighs 1150 grams and costs $2700.

For A7rII over 5DIII deduct 300g and add $700.

My Samsung Galaxy S2 weighs 116 grams, and has a f/2.8 lens in it. It take good pictures, but neither sensor nor lens are equivalent, so where is the comparison?

Just remind me why you are in this forum, blatantly trolling.

And trolling means anyone who disagrees with you? Have you ever used any of those lenses that you mention?

Answer the question. Why are you here?

Why should not I be, is there a membership for it? Don't you think this is an off-topic question with intent to provoke, very much as by that same troll definition that you posted? And besides, why are you passing judgement of what you can not have?

Here is 70-200/2.8 on a full frame camera, it certainly needs to be stopped down at the shorter range, and when the framing gets tight. With the quarter of a sensor you could probably get by with wide open just as well (at least for the third frame),

But what if the subject is not so close, and it is bigger, and I have no intent to have it lost in a busy background - what do I do then? I open it up. Not to f/5.6, but two stops over it,

And therefore the price.