FZ-1000, thoughts

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I am not calling this a review, because I have not done the kind of thorough testing that can lead to rock hard conclusions. Rather these are my experiences after using the FZ-1000, off and on, for a few months.

For years I have shot Canon full frame cameras. Recently I have added a Fuji X-E2 with several lenses to my lineup. I bought the FZ1000 because I saw occasions when I wanted a wide choice of focal lengths, but did not want to have to hire a pack mule to carry my equipment.

First general comments. I like to characterize my Canon 5D MKIII, with my complement of lenses, as a jack of all trades and master of all. That is the Canon paired with the appropriate lens, flash, etc. will do everything and do it as well as or almost as well as the best equipment on the market.

My Fuji system does a lot of things very well, but falls seriously short in come other areas.

I would characterize the FZ1000 as jack of all trades, but master of none (or almost none). That is it does just about everything, but you can generally find another camera/system that will do the task better. I should also add that I do not do video, so this comment only applies to stills.

Now for the details. First off, I only shoot RAW. There are really few surprises. Most of the pluses and minuses can be gleaned from the specifications.

The good: In decent light this camera is capable of producing excellent pictures. Not surprising because you can say that about almost any camera. However, let me amplify a bit. The lens seems to me to be excellent at all focal lengths. One day I took the camera to the zoo. I also lugged along my 5D MKIII with 400 mm f5.6L because I also wanted to try out my new Canon 1.4X TC. The pictures taken with the Panasonic compared well with those taken with the Canon. This is quite remarkable because the 400 mm f5.6L is one of the sharpest lenses Canon makes. I doubt you would be able to see any differences at any sort of reasonable resolution.

Autofocus seems fast and accurate, faster than my Fuji X-E2. I don't how well it focuses on challenging subjects. This is one area where my 5D MKIII shines.

Metering and WB seem accurate.

The not so good: Again there should be no surprises as these are fairly obvious from the specs.

The camera is big. You can get that from the specs. However, is tiny compared to a full frame camera with 400 mm zoom.

Some have complained that the camera seems flimsy. Yes, but that also makes for a much lighter package. For me, I would say that the size and weight are about the same as my Fuji X-E2 with 18-135 mm lens.

High ISO leaves a lot to be desires, but that should be obvious from the size of the sensor. To be a bit more specific, I had to use ISO 3200 on my Canon at the zoo, because the lens is not stabilized, whereas I could get away with ISO 800 on my FZ-1000. The results were comparable in terms of noise. I tried photographing my grandson at his soccer practice one evening. To get a sufficient shutter speed to stop the action, I had to use ISO 6400. The results were unusable. OTH I have shot ISO 6400 with my Canon and the results were fine even with out applying NR. With my Fuji, pictures taken at ISO 6400 are quite decent with some NR applied.

I do not like the electronic zoom. I much prefer the responsiveness of a manual zoom.

The switch to turn on and off the stabilization is to easy to use. It is easy to turn off the stabilization and not realize it until you look at the pictures.

So what is this camera good for? I am not sure it makes an ideal travel camera. I think I would prefer my Fuji with 18-135 lens. The package is about the same size. However, better IQ in low light, makes the Fuji more versatile. For casual use for travel, it is also a big package. I think if I were to just want something to carry with me to get the decent travel picture, I would choose something smaller.

Is it a good camera to take on safari? Probably. But if I am going to pay all of that money to go on safari, I would take my Canon gear.

How about portraits? A lot of times you want to isolate the subject against a blurred background. This is not the camera you would choose for that. However, one feature that intrigues me is the ability to sync flash up to 1/4000 sec.

So what is good for? I would say for the person who wants a really versatile camera and does not want to invest in a "System" from other manufactures.

Just my two cents. I did take the camera to San Francisco last week and took a few pictures, The results can be seen at http://www.pbase.com/jcassatt/san_francisco
 
I am not calling this a review, because I have not done the kind of thorough testing that can lead to rock hard conclusions. Rather these are my experiences after using the FZ-1000, off and on, for a few months.
I think you've provided an accurate view of the FZ1000 - considering your needs and experience with a high-end system camera. I agree this should not be viewed as a review and would likely have been much different if your previous experience was limited to compacts and you were moving up rather than down. I use the FZ200 now and have been considering the FZ1000 - its 4X larger sensor will be an improvement for me while it's a detriment for you.

Thanks for your insights - they provide food for thought no matter what one's been shooting before. At this point I think I'll wait to see what Panasonic does to follow the FZ1000. I'd like to see longer reach, perhaps cropping the 1" sensor for multi-aspect ratio [ala the LX series] to keep the camera/lens a reasonable size.
 
I tried photographing my grandson at his soccer practice one evening. To get a sufficient shutter speed to stop the action, I had to use ISO 6400. The results were unusable.
Your earlier comment about "reasonable resolution" gives me the impression that you tend to judge IQ at typical print/display sizes rather than at the pixel level. And since you also mentioned that you shoot RAW I am surprised that you would characterize ISO 6400 as "unusable".

Have you tried DxO Optics Pro for noise reduction? In my experience you can take an FZ1000 ISO6400 shot, develop it using DxO's PRIME NR, downsample it to ~5MP (which is still a good size even for viewing at 1:1 on a 4K display), and end up with a very decent shot. And if you stick Neat Image in there towards the end of the workflow the results can be quite remarkable all things considered.

Of course you can perform the exact same tricks with larger formats as well so you're never really bridging any gaps but if you can make do with ISO6400 on the FZ1000 by making it look a little better that might just get it over the line as an acceptable compromise for the sake of convenience, which I assume is your goal?
How about portraits? A lot of times you want to isolate the subject against a blurred background. This is not the camera you would choose for that.
Not at typical camera-to-subject distances anyway. But if you don't happen to have more suitable portrait gear handy and have a bit of freedom to control camera-to-subject distances and subject-to-background distances you can make do in a pinch: http://dofsimulator.net/en/?x=AW5BQQJxBRQAIwUho3z
So what is good for? I would say for the person who wants a really versatile camera and does not want to invest in a "System" from other manufactures.
And for hobbyist wildlife photographers too I would say. At least those who feel that a 400mm EFL is enough anyway.
Just my two cents. I did take the camera to San Francisco last week and took a few pictures, The results can be seen at http://www.pbase.com/jcassatt/san_francisco
Many of those shots look promising but I suspect that even the most undemanding viewer would struggle to enjoy images that are 300x200 pixels in size! That's what I get when I click on "original". Have I missed something or did you accidentally upload the wrong ones?
 
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I tried photographing my grandson at his soccer practice one evening. To get a sufficient shutter speed to stop the action, I had to use ISO 6400. The results were unusable.
A case of the wrong tool for the job - no long/superzoom camera is good in low light when fast shutter speeds are required. But I'm a bit surprised that the speed of soccer is too demanding. :-D
How about portraits? A lot of times you want to isolate the subject against a blurred background. This is not the camera you would choose for that.
Not at typical camera-to-subject distances anyway. But if you don't happen to have more suitable portrait gear handy and have a bit of freedom to control camera-to-subject distances and subject-to-background distances you can make do in a pinch: http://dofsimulator.net/en/?x=AW5BQQJxBRQAIwUho3z
Maybe not for normal shooting distances, but moving back and zooming can help.
So what is good for? I would say for the person who wants a really versatile camera and does not want to invest in a "System" from other manufactures.
And for hobbyist wildlife photographers too I would say. At least those who feel that a 400mm EFL is enough anyway.
I'd also throw 600mm EFL 1/2.3" shooters into this category as the FZ1000 can match them to 600mm and beat them at less.
Just my two cents. I did take the camera to San Francisco last week and took a few pictures, The results can be seen at http://www.pbase.com/jcassatt/san_francisco
Many of those shots look promising but I suspect that even the most undemanding viewer would struggle to enjoy images that are 300x200 pixels in size! That's what I get when I click on "original". Have I missed something or did you accidentally upload the wrong ones?
Same here - some very attractive shots that appear to contradict your assertions here!
 
X-E2+18-135=$1,900; 200mm zoom, fixed LCD screen, no grip, slightly smaller.

More than twice as expensive, half the zoom, unusable LCD screen, no grip--better have awesome IQ.

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I am not calling this a review, because I have not done the kind of thorough testing that can lead to rock hard conclusions. Rather these are my experiences after using the FZ-1000, off and on, for a few months.

For years I have shot Canon full frame cameras. Recently I have added a Fuji X-E2 with several lenses to my lineup. I bought the FZ1000 because I saw occasions when I wanted a wide choice of focal lengths, but did not want to have to hire a pack mule to carry my equipment.

First general comments. I like to characterize my Canon 5D MKIII, with my complement of lenses, as a jack of all trades and master of all. That is the Canon paired with the appropriate lens, flash, etc. will do everything and do it as well as or almost as well as the best equipment on the market.

My Fuji system does a lot of things very well, but falls seriously short in come other areas.

I would characterize the FZ1000 as jack of all trades, but master of none (or almost none). That is it does just about everything, but you can generally find another camera/system that will do the task better. I should also add that I do not do video, so this comment only applies to stills.

Now for the details. First off, I only shoot RAW. There are really few surprises. Most of the pluses and minuses can be gleaned from the specifications.

The good: In decent light this camera is capable of producing excellent pictures. Not surprising because you can say that about almost any camera. However, let me amplify a bit. The lens seems to me to be excellent at all focal lengths. One day I took the camera to the zoo. I also lugged along my 5D MKIII with 400 mm f5.6L because I also wanted to try out my new Canon 1.4X TC. The pictures taken with the Panasonic compared well with those taken with the Canon. This is quite remarkable because the 400 mm f5.6L is one of the sharpest lenses Canon makes. I doubt you would be able to see any differences at any sort of reasonable resolution.

Autofocus seems fast and accurate, faster than my Fuji X-E2. I don't how well it focuses on challenging subjects. This is one area where my 5D MKIII shines.

Metering and WB seem accurate.

The not so good: Again there should be no surprises as these are fairly obvious from the specs.

The camera is big. You can get that from the specs. However, is tiny compared to a full frame camera with 400 mm zoom.

Some have complained that the camera seems flimsy. Yes, but that also makes for a much lighter package. For me, I would say that the size and weight are about the same as my Fuji X-E2 with 18-135 mm lens.

High ISO leaves a lot to be desires, but that should be obvious from the size of the sensor. To be a bit more specific, I had to use ISO 3200 on my Canon at the zoo, because the lens is not stabilized, whereas I could get away with ISO 800 on my FZ-1000. The results were comparable in terms of noise. I tried photographing my grandson at his soccer practice one evening. To get a sufficient shutter speed to stop the action, I had to use ISO 6400. The results were unusable. OTH I have shot ISO 6400 with my Canon and the results were fine even with out applying NR. With my Fuji, pictures taken at ISO 6400 are quite decent with some NR applied.

I do not like the electronic zoom. I much prefer the responsiveness of a manual zoom.

The switch to turn on and off the stabilization is to easy to use. It is easy to turn off the stabilization and not realize it until you look at the pictures.

So what is this camera good for? I am not sure it makes an ideal travel camera. I think I would prefer my Fuji with 18-135 lens. The package is about the same size. However, better IQ in low light, makes the Fuji more versatile. For casual use for travel, it is also a big package. I think if I were to just want something to carry with me to get the decent travel picture, I would choose something smaller.

Is it a good camera to take on safari? Probably. But if I am going to pay all of that money to go on safari, I would take my Canon gear.

How about portraits? A lot of times you want to isolate the subject against a blurred background. This is not the camera you would choose for that. However, one feature that intrigues me is the ability to sync flash up to 1/4000 sec.

So what is good for? I would say for the person who wants a really versatile camera and does not want to invest in a "System" from other manufactures.

Just my two cents. I did take the camera to San Francisco last week and took a few pictures, The results can be seen at http://www.pbase.com/jcassatt/san_francisco
 
Sorry about the low resolution pictures. I had resized a batch of pictures for something else and forgot to change the parameters when I exported these. I have reloaded higher resolution images.

I must admit I am old fashioned, and still print my pictures. So I do judge images by how they look printed rather than by pixel peeping.

As far as noise reduction, I find that the hardest images to process at high ISO's are those with people. For me it is difficult to take out the noise and still maintain realistic skin.

Thanks for the comments.
 
Don't use the LCD screen and the IQ is awesome. Plus it does have a manual zoom. Much better performance at high ISO's
 
Thanks.

I've actually been looking for an ILC package which would have the same features as the FZ1000, but with better IQ, and from everything I've heard, it doesn't exist.

The Fuji package might work as an ILC substitute for the RX10--though not for me, since even the RX10 tilting screen is unusable as far as I'm concerned and is, therefore, a deal breaker.

I need everything the FZ1000 has, plus the additional upgrade in IQ, in order for an ILC package to work for me.
 
Not sure what kind of improvements in IQ you are after. In any sort of decent light the FZ1000 is fine. I have not tried this, but I suspect that if I compared two 12x18 inch prints taken in decent light, one with my Canon 5D MKIII with a top quality lens, and the other with my ZX-1000, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. Where the IQ starts to degrade is at higher ISOs, not unexpected because of the size of the sensor.
 
More detail without having to pixel peek to see it.

The RX10 has better detail (due to the shorter zoom), but you might have to pixel peek to see it.

It's admittedly very subjective on my part, when I see images from other cameras that strike me as crisper, sharper, and more detailed than what I've seen from the FZ1000.

But then I also have to admit that occasionally someone will post an FZ1000 shot that surprisingly looks a little better than I thought the camera was capable of.

I'm not as sure of myself as I used to be on this question. I also used to be more willing to pixel peek, but that has become an increasingly pointless practice to me over time.

That being said, I'm always on the hunt for the best IQ the naked eye can see (though I'm quite able to admire a great shot even if it lacks the best IQ--so I agree when people say it's not always about IQ, but that's no reason not to have it).
 
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I am not calling this a review, because I have not done the kind of thorough testing that can lead to rock hard conclusions. Rather these are my experiences after using the FZ-1000, off and on, for a few months.

For years I have shot Canon full frame cameras. Recently I have added a Fuji X-E2 with several lenses to my lineup. I bought the FZ1000 because I saw occasions when I wanted a wide choice of focal lengths, but did not want to have to hire a pack mule to carry my equipment.

First general comments. I like to characterize my Canon 5D MKIII, with my complement of lenses, as a jack of all trades and master of all. That is the Canon paired with the appropriate lens, flash, etc. will do everything and do it as well as or almost as well as the best equipment on the market.

My Fuji system does a lot of things very well, but falls seriously short in come other areas.

I would characterize the FZ1000 as jack of all trades, but master of none (or almost none). That is it does just about everything, but you can generally find another camera/system that will do the task better. I should also add that I do not do video, so this comment only applies to stills.

Now for the details. First off, I only shoot RAW. There are really few surprises. Most of the pluses and minuses can be gleaned from the specifications.

The good: In decent light this camera is capable of producing excellent pictures. Not surprising because you can say that about almost any camera. However, let me amplify a bit. The lens seems to me to be excellent at all focal lengths. One day I took the camera to the zoo. I also lugged along my 5D MKIII with 400 mm f5.6L because I also wanted to try out my new Canon 1.4X TC. The pictures taken with the Panasonic compared well with those taken with the Canon. This is quite remarkable because the 400 mm f5.6L is one of the sharpest lenses Canon makes. I doubt you would be able to see any differences at any sort of reasonable resolution.

Autofocus seems fast and accurate, faster than my Fuji X-E2. I don't how well it focuses on challenging subjects. This is one area where my 5D MKIII shines.

Metering and WB seem accurate.

The not so good: Again there should be no surprises as these are fairly obvious from the specs.

The camera is big. You can get that from the specs. However, is tiny compared to a full frame camera with 400 mm zoom.

Some have complained that the camera seems flimsy. Yes, but that also makes for a much lighter package. For me, I would say that the size and weight are about the same as my Fuji X-E2 with 18-135 mm lens.

High ISO leaves a lot to be desires, but that should be obvious from the size of the sensor. To be a bit more specific, I had to use ISO 3200 on my Canon at the zoo, because the lens is not stabilized, whereas I could get away with ISO 800 on my FZ-1000. The results were comparable in terms of noise. I tried photographing my grandson at his soccer practice one evening. To get a sufficient shutter speed to stop the action, I had to use ISO 6400. The results were unusable. OTH I have shot ISO 6400 with my Canon and the results were fine even with out applying NR. With my Fuji, pictures taken at ISO 6400 are quite decent with some NR applied.

I do not like the electronic zoom. I much prefer the responsiveness of a manual zoom.

The switch to turn on and off the stabilization is to easy to use. It is easy to turn off the stabilization and not realize it until you look at the pictures.

So what is this camera good for? I am not sure it makes an ideal travel camera. I think I would prefer my Fuji with 18-135 lens. The package is about the same size. However, better IQ in low light, makes the Fuji more versatile. For casual use for travel, it is also a big package. I think if I were to just want something to carry with me to get the decent travel picture, I would choose something smaller.

Is it a good camera to take on safari? Probably. But if I am going to pay all of that money to go on safari, I would take my Canon gear.

How about portraits? A lot of times you want to isolate the subject against a blurred background. This is not the camera you would choose for that. However, one feature that intrigues me is the ability to sync flash up to 1/4000 sec.

So what is good for? I would say for the person who wants a really versatile camera and does not want to invest in a "System" from other manufactures.

Just my two cents. I did take the camera to San Francisco last week and took a few pictures, The results can be seen at http://www.pbase.com/jcassatt/san_francisco

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Jim
http://www.pbase.com/jcassatt
Hello Jim,

I've been reading your experience with this cam even 5 times and still have NO clue what you exactly wanted to say with it.

Nothing that you mentioned is a big surprise (but all true) , all open doors. Canon € 2.500 body better iso? sure, better with a €1200 lens ?? sure no surprise again. Better at close distance with a €750 24-105? sure open door again.

Now lets compare the Fz1000 with a CELLPHONE, the one they give to children. Is the Fz1000 faster? better iso? better lowlight speed? lol OPENDOORS.

When i do a fast sum up i guess you payed roughly €4.500 to cover EFL 35-600mm right?

and you even dont have the 4K video... (sure i know you dont use that but it IS a fact)

Seeing your gear i got really interested in the pictures in your galleries to look at them at my 4K (8.3MP) screen and guess what?

Pls place some of those shots on a Sd card and run to a store with 4k MONITORS, and watch them carefully.

friendly regards,

Hans
Only a snapshot with FZ1000 but I think acceptable, please note shot at 789mm.



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Hand held standing on River bank.
 
I must admit I am old fashioned, and still print my pictures. So I do judge images by how they look printed rather than by pixel peeping.
I think this is how photos should be judged. I think pixel peeping, though academically interesting, is not a good way of judging how your photos look. It's a bit like 0 to 60mph times for cars/motorbikes. Interesting, but doesn't always translate to real world performance. Besides, PP can lead to anxiety and depression, and feed GAS!

I still do pixel peep, but don't pay too much attention to it. I print A3 size, and if it looks good at reasonable viewing distance then it is good. Heck, if you can't see any flaws when looking at a photo in the way it is intended to be seen, print or display, then effectively there aren't any flaws.
 
Your post seems well balanced to me Jim. Your Canon kit is clearly top end and beyond what most enthusiasts can, or are willing, to pay. I do not have the FZ1000 but recognise it has very good IQ in most conditions and an excellent lens, it may well be an optimum buy for the many who buy a dSLR with kit lens and permanently set to Automatic. Having said that, new dSLRs can be had for half the cost of an FZ1000 ;-)
 
Sorry about the low resolution pictures. I had resized a batch of pictures for something else and forgot to change the parameters when I exported these. I have reloaded higher resolution images.
Thanks. Some great shots in there :)
I must admit I am old fashioned, and still print my pictures. So I do judge images by how they look printed rather than by pixel peeping.
Unless you're printing at very large sizes, or looking at modestly large prints very closely, again I'm wondering why you consider ISO6400 to be unusable.

DPR's studio scene, ISO6400

DPR's studio scene, ISO6400



Imaging Resource's indoor test scene ("Lauren"), ISO6400

Imaging Resource's indoor test scene ("Lauren"), ISO6400

Or what about at the same resolution as the images you uploaded to pbase?

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Or ISO6400 and dim lighting:

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None of this changes the fact that your 5D MkIII can essentially do the same thing at a good 3-stops higher ISO of course, or can produce images at the same ISO which are noticeably superior. I'm just trying to demonstrate that "good enough" might be closer than you're suggesting.
As far as noise reduction, I find that the hardest images to process at high ISO's are those with people. For me it is difficult to take out the noise and still maintain realistic skin.
Not all noise reduction methods are created equal. Some sacrifice processing speed in order to remove as much noise as possible while retaining as much detail as possible in the most "intelligent" manner possible. The best methods can literally give you a stop or even a bit more of extra latitude before things become unpalatable.

I can't say I've had much experience trying to maintain just the right sort of skin tones and textures though as I don't really shoot people that much. Perhaps the challenge is greater than I think it is. Still, I suspect there is always room for just the right sort of workflow to improve things at least a little.
 
Sorry about the low resolution pictures. I had resized a batch of pictures for something else and forgot to change the parameters when I exported these. I have reloaded higher resolution images.

I must admit I am old fashioned, and still print my pictures. So I do judge images by how they look printed rather than by pixel peeping.

As far as noise reduction, I find that the hardest images to process at high ISO's are those with people. For me it is difficult to take out the noise and still maintain realistic skin.

Thanks for the comments.
 
Hey Jim. Good write up and I agree with most of what you're saying but I disagree where you say the FZ1000 is a master of nothing. It is a master of photographic usefulness and not just of convenience like a smartphone but of truly being able to capture quality images within the most common focal lengths without changing lenses. Any comparisons to other cameras without this important point in mind is missing the point of this camera.

I understand what interchangeable lens cameras have to offer and sometimes I will want a specific focal length or lens quality that the FZ1000 doesn't offer but in reality that doesn't happen that often. Even the need for super high ISO's doesn't come up that often. But what does happen often is that one moment I'm capturing a shot far away and the next moment I see a shot up close that's interesting and, with the FZ1000, I don't have to decide if the shot is really worth changing lenses for. I just take the shot because it's at least mildly interesting and move on to the next shot knowing that I can figure it out later at my computer. It's such a liberating and fluid way to shoot that I'm certain my photos are better for it compared to if I was shooting with a DSLR or mirrorless camera and having to change lenses. I know this shooting experience is probably different for everybody but to me it's an important distinction.

If I was shooting in something like a controlled studio setting than I'm sure I'd want a DSLR or mirrorless camera with specialized lenses but when I'm out shooting and looking for creative subjects than the FZ1000 is the only camera I can imagine using right now. There is simply no other camera out there quite like it. It shows how different we all are though and it's a good thing we have all these great choices in camera gear.

You made a great point about the slow electronic zoom lens and that is the number one feature I would change on the FZ1000. I personally don't care how it would adversely effect video shooting, I would much prefer it if it had a manual zoom lens. I think of this camera as a stills camera first and a video camera second and I hate to see compromises like this that effect the stills side of shooting. Fortunately I'm not a big action shooter so I deal with it pretty well.

One last thing to Panny while I'm thinking about it again is STOP the auto lens retraction. Ok 'nuf said.

-Tim
 
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One last thing to Panny while I'm thinking about it again is STOP the auto lens retraction. Ok 'nuf said.
I find myself rushing to review an image sometimes in an effort to beat the auto retraction timer. It's maddening and beyond logic that there isn't a way to disable it.
 
One last thing to Panny while I'm thinking about it again is STOP the auto lens retraction. Ok 'nuf said.
I find myself rushing to review an image sometimes in an effort to beat the auto retraction timer. It's maddening and beyond logic that there isn't a way to disable it.
When I'm shooting with the FZ1000 I mostly keep the rear LCD closed partly to protect it and conserve power but also because I'm trying to train myself to chimp less often and study the image carefully and quickly in the EVF during the two second image review. This is the first camera I've owned where the EVF was big enough and detailed enough to do this and so far it's working pretty well but it's a hard habit to break entirely.

-Tim
 

FZ1000 ISO 12800, Rainforest aviary, Sydney Taronga zoo.



Hi Jim, Thanks for posting. The main message I get from your interesting post derives from that famous aphorism by Marshall McLuhan--"The medium is the message" If an experienced photographer such as yourself is comparing the FZ1000 to a high end full frame DSLR (three sensor sizes up) then the FZ1000 must be pretty darn good.

On the subject of high ISO image quality of course the larger sensors will be better.

But with judicious use of all the tools available in Adobe Camera RAW I find quite acceptable results can be obtained from the FZ1000 even at very high ISO settings. The female bower bird above prints very nicely at A4 size and still looks decent at A3 size. I don't need to get a full sized poster print out of every image.

I once owned the Canon EF 400mm f5.6 unstabilised lens, in my Canon DSLR days. It's a nice lens but I doubt I would even have attempted the shot above with that lens, hand held (there are people everywhere) f5.6, no IS, Maybe, but I don't think so.

Andrew
 

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