Good time to buy a GR?

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Hello, I'm on the cusp of ordering a Ricoh GR, something I've lusted after for a long time but I've seen some posts mentioning rumours of a new model being announced soon. I realise that if you always wait for the next camera you'll be waiting forever, but if there's something amazing around the corner, or a big discount on the GR. I'm really excited anyway and might no be able to wait!
 
Well, I hope so, 'cos I caved in and bought one yesterday... :)

I have an X-E1 which is nice, but just not pocketable enough and a tad heavy. I have a Pentax Q7 that's been my main travel camera for a while, but while I love the size, I really wanted something with a better sensor.

I toyed with the idea of a GM5 (I have a couple of m43 lenses), or even an RX100III or Fuji X30, but none of those really appealed. The Fuji is a bit on the heavy side, and the GM5 and Sony, while nice, are slightly out of budget.

At the current price, the GR seems like a great deal. I was tempted to grab the OVF too, but thought I'd wait and see what the LCD screen is like to use (one of the reasons I don't like using the Q7 is the lack of viewfinder for work in bright sun).

So far, the initial shots from it look great. Really pleased with how the controls are all laid out too, for a compact.

In fact, I'm feeling so pleased with this camera I might even ditch my Fuji stuff...

-Steve
great to hear that Steve. My new GR is waiting on the kitchen table following delivery! Will post my first thoughts and images.
 
Well, I hope so, 'cos I caved in and bought one yesterday... :)

I have an X-E1 which is nice, but just not pocketable enough and a tad heavy. I have a Pentax Q7 that's been my main travel camera for a while, but while I love the size, I really wanted something with a better sensor.

I toyed with the idea of a GM5 (I have a couple of m43 lenses), or even an RX100III or Fuji X30, but none of those really appealed. The Fuji is a bit on the heavy side, and the GM5 and Sony, while nice, are slightly out of budget.

At the current price, the GR seems like a great deal. I was tempted to grab the OVF too, but thought I'd wait and see what the LCD screen is like to use (one of the reasons I don't like using the Q7 is the lack of viewfinder for work in bright sun).

So far, the initial shots from it look great. Really pleased with how the controls are all laid out too, for a compact.

In fact, I'm feeling so pleased with this camera I might even ditch my Fuji stuff...

-Steve
I hope that the next GR model has a slightly longer FL lens that's as good as the current lens. At that point I would indeed be tempted to have 2 GRs that would cover my needs and sell most of my Fuji primes and leave the X-E2 for special needs.

Sal
 
Well, I hope so, 'cos I caved in and bought one yesterday... :)

I have an X-E1 which is nice, but just not pocketable enough and a tad heavy. I have a Pentax Q7 that's been my main travel camera for a while, but while I love the size, I really wanted something with a better sensor.

I toyed with the idea of a GM5 (I have a couple of m43 lenses), or even an RX100III or Fuji X30, but none of those really appealed. The Fuji is a bit on the heavy side, and the GM5 and Sony, while nice, are slightly out of budget.

At the current price, the GR seems like a great deal. I was tempted to grab the OVF too, but thought I'd wait and see what the LCD screen is like to use (one of the reasons I don't like using the Q7 is the lack of viewfinder for work in bright sun).

So far, the initial shots from it look great. Really pleased with how the controls are all laid out too, for a compact.

In fact, I'm feeling so pleased with this camera I might even ditch my Fuji stuff...

-Steve
I hope that the next GR model has a slightly longer FL lens that's as good as the current lens. At that point I would indeed be tempted to have 2 GRs that would cover my needs and sell most of my Fuji primes and leave the X-E2 for special needs.

Sal
Agreed, Sal. Just having a 28mm equivalent is a bit limiting to be sure, and there are times when you don't want to get so close to the subject. I've yet to try out the 35mm and 47mm crop modes, but it's really handy they're there in case you need them. I like to think of the Ricoh GR as something like a digital equivalent of my old Olympus Mju...

It's a shame the X100 series is a similar size/weight to the X-E1/2. If Ricoh can put an APS-C sensor into a chassis as small as the GR, then you'd think Fuji could too... but I suppose one reason that the GR is so small and light is partly because of the focal length.
 
Well, I hope so, 'cos I caved in and bought one yesterday... :)

I have an X-E1 which is nice, but just not pocketable enough and a tad heavy. I have a Pentax Q7 that's been my main travel camera for a while, but while I love the size, I really wanted something with a better sensor.

I toyed with the idea of a GM5 (I have a couple of m43 lenses), or even an RX100III or Fuji X30, but none of those really appealed. The Fuji is a bit on the heavy side, and the GM5 and Sony, while nice, are slightly out of budget.

At the current price, the GR seems like a great deal. I was tempted to grab the OVF too, but thought I'd wait and see what the LCD screen is like to use (one of the reasons I don't like using the Q7 is the lack of viewfinder for work in bright sun).

So far, the initial shots from it look great. Really pleased with how the controls are all laid out too, for a compact.

In fact, I'm feeling so pleased with this camera I might even ditch my Fuji stuff...

-Steve
great to hear that Steve. My new GR is waiting on the kitchen table following delivery! Will post my first thoughts and images.

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Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the camera, Mikael. Have fun...

-S
 
If it is 'significantly' better then yes, just as an example: full frame, 1.7 aperture or something equally crazy like that!!
I would be more interested is better low light AF, a modern sensor, etc.
 
Well, I hope so, 'cos I caved in and bought one yesterday... :)

I have an X-E1 which is nice, but just not pocketable enough and a tad heavy. I have a Pentax Q7 that's been my main travel camera for a while, but while I love the size, I really wanted something with a better sensor.

I toyed with the idea of a GM5 (I have a couple of m43 lenses), or even an RX100III or Fuji X30, but none of those really appealed. The Fuji is a bit on the heavy side, and the GM5 and Sony, while nice, are slightly out of budget.

At the current price, the GR seems like a great deal. I was tempted to grab the OVF too, but thought I'd wait and see what the LCD screen is like to use (one of the reasons I don't like using the Q7 is the lack of viewfinder for work in bright sun).

So far, the initial shots from it look great. Really pleased with how the controls are all laid out too, for a compact.

In fact, I'm feeling so pleased with this camera I might even ditch my Fuji stuff...

-Steve
I never use my OVF, if you decide you need one PM me, mine is mint.
 
I fancy buying one too.

however I'm purely a JPEG shooter and have read that jpegs are not the best.

also how's the auto faces speed?

also been eyeing up a Sony a6000 & omd e-m10 both with kit lenses for a while.

ive been a Fuji x shooter for the past few years but fancy something different :)
I have the Nikon Coolpix A, which specs out very much the same, is a bit smaller and has a few less features. But photo quality is very similar. The GR is faster, but the 'A' is excellent for JPEGS. The 'A'is also cheaper to buy, if you can find one for sale.
 
I fancy buying one too.

however I'm purely a JPEG shooter and have read that jpegs are not the best.

also how's the auto faces speed?

also been eyeing up a Sony a6000 & omd e-m10 both with kit lenses for a while.

ive been a Fuji x shooter for the past few years but fancy something different :)
I have the Nikon Coolpix A, which specs out very much the same, is a bit smaller and has a few less features. But photo quality is very similar. The GR is faster, but the 'A' is excellent for JPEGS. The 'A'is also cheaper to buy, if you can find one for sale.
The 'A' can't match the GR's monochrome output, 3 user presets (remembering all settings), battery life, customisability, lighter weight, 'stealth' factor, buffer, Eye-fi support, USB charging, one-handed usage ergonomics, RGBW screen, lens sharpness, snap focus...

It does look a bit fancier though :p
3 user presets would be more useful if the GR's JPEGS were better.

lighter weight...I thought the A is lighter.

USB charging? I prefer having a charger.

Lens sharpness...that's debatable.

Fancier? I prefer the GR look, although it's bigger.

Monochrome look? For B & W shooting, I like my old LX-3....very magic for that. (Don't like it's colors.)
 
I fancy buying one too.

however I'm purely a JPEG shooter and have read that jpegs are not the best.

also how's the auto faces speed?

also been eyeing up a Sony a6000 & omd e-m10 both with kit lenses for a while.

ive been a Fuji x shooter for the past few years but fancy something different :)
I have the Nikon Coolpix A, which specs out very much the same, is a bit smaller and has a few less features. But photo quality is very similar. The GR is faster, but the 'A' is excellent for JPEGS. The 'A'is also cheaper to buy, if you can find one for sale.
The 'A' can't match the GR's monochrome output, 3 user presets (remembering all settings), battery life, customisability, lighter weight, 'stealth' factor, buffer, Eye-fi support, USB charging, one-handed usage ergonomics, RGBW screen, lens sharpness, snap focus...

It does look a bit fancier though :p
3 user presets would be more useful if the GR's JPEGS were better.
The GR's Jpegs are neutral. 98% saturation vs the 'A's (typical) 110% 'A.' Jpegs are subjective and can easily be tailored using the in-camera settings.

In addition the GR can store a total of 6 (3 on the dial, + 3 more that can be swapped out at will) user-named presets, RAW or Jpeg or both. The 'A's 2 user presets are less useful, as they don't retain all camera settings, apparently.
lighter weight...I thought the A is lighter.
GR 245 g vs 'A' 299 g. That's almost 20% lighter, not insignificant in such small cameras. My RX100Mk11 is 281g, and noticeably more hefty than the GR in hand.

The GR is slightly longer and taller than the A, but also thinner, making the in-pocket experience with the rubber handgrip almost perfect.
USB charging? I prefer having a charger.
These days USB can be topped up from just about anywhere in the field. Subjective also yes.
Lens sharpness...that's debatable.
Many lenses can be considered sharp stopped down and/or in the centre. The 'A' is very, very good. However the GR's lens is ridiculously sharp edge-to-edge even wide open, and many consider it to be in the Leica/Zeiss prime class.
Fancier? I prefer the GR look, although it's bigger.
Haha I meant because the Nikon has the shiny metal bits it looks a bit classier. (to me)
Monochrome look? For B & W shooting, I like my old LX-3....very magic for that. (Don't like it's colors.)
No doubt about this one. The GR is out on it's own for insanely beautiful monochromes. Here's just one look at this: Ricoh GR vs. Leica Monochrom

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No doubt the 'A' is a fantastic camera designed for punchy OOC Jpeg output. Made even more attractive by the recent price cuts. I'm just very lucky that I stumbled upon the GR before the 'A' price drops hit down under, because using the GR is a revelatory experience.

You really have to try one to comprehend the phenomenal ergonomics and interface; it is so different from any other camera that I have used, yet feels completely natural. Not much surprise, considering it has been honed from a decade of GR camera heritage (with 4 to 5 firmware updates per camera. The GR is on V 4.0). My Rx100Mk11 feels quite ungainly now, despite all it's Sony magic tricks.

Without doubt, it's the best and most fun camera I have ever owned.

It's a sleeper and you really should try to get your hands on one Steve! :)

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PS The cream on the cake is that I just discovered that my RX100Mk11 Magfilter fits perfectly on the GR. I can pop on any filter or polariser with no bulky adapter! Yay!

http://mogopod.com/products/magfilter
Thanks; too many cameras already. I got the A mainly because it was $200 cheaper and I'm pleased with it's small size and quality metal build.

About your Magfilter; there are a bunch of these strange 'coincidences' in the camera world. I was surprised to discover that by UWA lens adapter for my NEX lenses will snap right onto the front of my Panasonic 14/2.5 M43 pancake lens...and work beautifully!

Someone should do a list on 'unusual combos.'
 
The only time that isn't a good time to buy a GR is when you can't afford it. Apart from financial considerations, it is practically always a good time to buy a GR.

On release: you were one of the first to have superlative DSLR image quality in your pocket married to Ricoh ergonomics.

Six months later: prices had dropped and firmware had increased focusing speed and further improved the camera.

One year on: prices were stable but still lower, and no other camera apart from the Nikon A came close to the GR specs.

Now: prices are at an all time low.

On the eve of a new GR: prices will drop even further and the GR will still be an awesome camera.

If the GR specs and handling meet your needs, it is always a good time to buy one.
 
The only time that isn't a good time to buy a GR is when you can't afford it. Apart from financial considerations, it is practically always a good time to buy a GR.

On release: you were one of the first to have superlative DSLR image quality in your pocket married to Ricoh ergonomics.

Six months later: prices had dropped and firmware had increased focusing speed and further improved the camera.

One year on: prices were stable but still lower, and no other camera apart from the Nikon A came close to the GR specs.

Now: prices are at an all time low.

On the eve of a new GR: prices will drop even further and the GR will still be an awesome camera.

If the GR specs and handling meet your needs, it is always a good time to buy one.

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1 - Are you a Ricoh salesperson?

2 - Why must you assume that I am incapable of making my own informed decisions?
1. No, just a very satisfied customer.

2. My reply was to the OP, not to you. Your post just happened to be the last in this thread and I pressed reply, which is a common habit among forum readers. Why must you assume that any response after yours pertains directly to you? I hadn't even read your posts at all.

If you were to consider my response in that light, it makes much more sense.

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You are mistaken. Common sense should teach you that when you reply directly to the last person, you are not replying to the OP. The convention is that in order to reply to the OP, you should reply directly to the very first posting, which is his.

As it stands, I find your reply to me quite offensive and rude. Good bye.
 

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