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The Verge's A7 II review is out
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"It sounds like the camera is tearing apart from the inside out with every frame I snap."
"I often had to take multiple frames in a hope that one will be in focus and usable."
"Also unchanged from last year’s camera is the A7 II’s image and video quality... uses the new XAVC S codec for better compression and video quality."
"image quality at higher ISOs is not as good as other cameras"
Nothing beats a great review than a real healthy dose of hyperbole, unsubstantiated claims, and self-contradicting statements. ;-)
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"I often had to take multiple frames in a hope that one will be in focus and usable."
"Also unchanged from last year’s camera is the A7 II’s image and video quality... uses the new XAVC S codec for better compression and video quality."
"image quality at higher ISOs is not as good as other cameras"
Nothing beats a great review than a real healthy dose of hyperbole, unsubstantiated claims, and self-contradicting statements. ;-)
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/36885667@N04/
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vett93
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The auto-focus function on my A7II is indeed questionable. From time to time, I get wrong focus exactly as the review stated....
o Conlocha
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I guess there are too many points that have gone without being addressed the focus is major, the sound is major for many, low light is a another aspect (though less important if you have ibis), Sony were too fast with the a7II, they should have done a bunch more upgrades to this camera which they didn't do, not listening well enough to customers, or listening to the wrong ones. It's simple, focus has to be 100% accurate, sound has to be either non existent or very low, but not that munchy sound. In most other departments they have done some very good work, ibis is excellent and the sensor is pretty good, propbably better than most competitors.
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I second that. Sony's on a yearly update plan to be sure to leapfrog C and N's possible 2015 mirrorless offerings (which they will do with not much doubt, given C and N's lag in this department), and also P, O and F products (there they have stiffer competition). What they've been able to achieve in just a year really is tremendous progress - but a number of those years are going to be necessary before the A7 becomes as compelling a package as say the A6000.
The rumored A9 may be something more consistent, by the way. On that one they may relax the price constraint and throw all the current technology that money can buy in the mix. We may then have a more complete body there.
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Are you coming from a DSLR? Mostly people, probably inclusive the reviewer, are used to AF in DSLRs and there is a learning curve to use AF with the latest Sony cameras. There are quite a few modes and features that you need to experiment with.
What exactly is your problem when using AF with the A7-II?
vett93
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I usually use center focus or flexible-spot small for AF. I point the A7II at the various objects in my family room and press the shutter half way. It beeps but the screen is blurry once in a while.
If I repeat immediately after getting a wrong AF, it will yield a correct AF.
The review was well balanced with respect to someone coming from dslr and for the person who shoots high ISO jpg. I think that there is a lot of pressure on Sony to rectify many of these issues with the A9. The A9 will need to be a groundbreaking product in order to compete with professional DSLR cameras. I did not see this version of the A7 as much of an upgrade, so I suppose that I agree with the reviewer.
Yes it does that once in a while, esp in quite dark situations with af assist turned off
But it certainly is not what the reviewer claims:
"I often had to take multiple frames in a hope that one will be in focus and usable."
Even the original A7 is not that bad.
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Your posts here make it VERY clear you don't understand the very basics of DOF and RAW files. There is no way you will be able to successfully use a FF camera.
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Inaccurate assessment of the A7, so one can only assume their A7II review will be similar.
And any time someone says, "x looks like a camera should look", I scratch my head.
Brian Caslis
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I'm seeing the same thing with medium flexible spot and AF assist on.
Brian Caslis
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I see the same problem and I've been taking pictures since 1976. How long have you been doing this? But in this forum it seems the camera is never at fault, only those who don't always defend Sony products.
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I don't care.
Long enough to understand DOF.
I'm not defending anything. He doesn't understand the basics of photography and his opinion should be qualified as such.
Stflbn
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Gotta love reviews that talk about all the flaws of something compared to Pro DSLR's, and then attaches a bunch of photo's that could have been taken with an iPhone.
It will definitely be fun when Canon and Nikon finally jump into Mirrorless and their new lens platforms also are what people now are complaining to Sony about for being "expensive".
It will definitely be fun when Canon and Nikon finally jump into Mirrorless and their new lens platforms also are what people now are complaining to Sony about for being "expensive".
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And to many here, it seems that an automatic assumption that the camera is always at fault and never the person behind it.
I use M Flexible Spot by default and get the most success with it...Unlike some cameras I've owned where you really did have to 'spray and pray'.
Brian Caslis
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The user can obviously mess up more than the camera. But this forum is really over the top in assuming that everyone that posts anything other than praise has some agenda to defame their beloved cameras.
In good light there is no issue. But there really seems to be a point that the AF falls off a cliff on this camera. The fact that some are experiencing this and reporting this doesn't make them wrong and doesn't mean the camera does other things well.
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And again, for many it seems that there's now a near-constant barrage of 'the A7 sucks/is inferior/no better than crop' threads. I'm not talking about FW bugs or other valid issues, but lots of exaggeration, flamebaiting and so forth.
Yes, there's some defensiveness going on here, too. I'd say that would be a natural reaction to the state of affairs I described above, for any brand forum.
Honestly, I just tested mine and can't say it's any worse than my prior A7 - in fact without hard testing on video I'd hazard the guess that AF speed and accuracy is improved across the board, if only slightly.
My suggestion would be to turn off the AF assist LED and see if that helps. It never 'assisted' anything on my A7. That's one feature I can readily attest that did not work.
I've had this happen with every autofocus camera that I have ever used. It's not unique to Sony, it's a condition of autofocus. If the focus point more easily finds contrast in something other than your subject then it will focus on that.
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