I also had the ZS3...my Mom has it now....with over 12,000 images before she received it. For its day, it was impressive....and the video, even the audio, was really good, I thought. ANAYVI shot the ZS3 for many years and it's IQ was quite acceptable. Panasonic really know how to squeeze dynamic range from their products with software.I am quite fond of the ZS series.They are durable, quick, and easy to use.
I currently use the previous years Zs30 (no RAW), but like the IQ at low ISO's.
Here's one shot from few days ago:
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But the real benefit of shooting a Panasonic of any sort is the fact that the video will be excellent in every way. Fuji just has nothing to compare ...
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We're going back to the dark days of CCD sensors and mediocre low light performance all around, so that was not a very big knock against it. What caused me to sell it was the advent of the much longer lenses on the Fujis, and later the arrival of raw shooting in the F550EXR and that wonderful 1/2" BSI CMOS EXR sensor.Panasonic have always mostly done a decent job for video. The ZS3 was quite good here, on the other hand it wasn't any great shakes in lower light levels. It was a decent travel cam but not the pinnacle of superzooms by any meansI shot the ZS3 for many years and it's IQ was quite acceptable. Panasonic really know how to squeeze dynamic range from their products with software.I am quite fond of the ZS series.They are durable, quick, and easy to use.
I currently use the previous years Zs30 (no RAW), but like the IQ at low ISO's.
Here's one shot from few days ago:
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But the real benefit of shooting a Panasonic of any sort is the fact that the video will be excellent in every way. Fuji just has nothing to compare ...
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The video was spectacular for its day ... it still crushes any Fuji ever made ....I also had the ZS3...my Mom has it now....with over 12,000 images before she received it. For its day, it was impressive....and the video, even the audio, was really good, I thought. ANAYVI shot the ZS3 for many years and it's IQ was quite acceptable. Panasonic really know how to squeeze dynamic range from their products with software.I am quite fond of the ZS series.They are durable, quick, and easy to use.
I currently use the previous years Zs30 (no RAW), but like the IQ at low ISO's.
Here's one shot from few days ago:
ANAYV
But the real benefit of shooting a Panasonic of any sort is the fact that the video will be excellent in every way. Fuji just has nothing to compare ...
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Good point, and I am thinking.
The NX Mini still lacks a long zoom lens that can change-out with the 9-27 (24-73 crop equiv) zoom. Also the Samsung line has what seems like an excellent (possibly only very good) 16-50 PZ, in the larger mount, which pairs with a telephoto zoom. So the NX3000 is also under consideration. It is too soon to know for sure, but the NX1 might have the best 4K video so far, and is not overpriced IMO.
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I'm curious as to what you went with?
I just ordered the 900EXR myself (haven't received it yet). I find it interesting that it can be had for less than its predecessor, the 800EXR. I have a Canon 7D with a nice lens lineup, and I have an iPhone 6. There are lots of times where I want a camera, but don't want to lug my DSLR (like if I'm hiking or on my bike), but the iPhone simply doesn't cut it. I went with the 900EXR for three main reasons: Its range, it's price and the fact that it shoots RAW. Most compacts do not offer RAW and that is a must for me. Any demanding shooting will still be done with the Canon, but the Fuji will be my "it's better than not having a camera at all" alternative. I really could have used it when I went hiking last week and saw four wild horses at about 250 yards. I certainly wouldn't expect it to give me good shots at that range, but all I got with my iPhone was dots.
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The 900EXR Sounds like a Great Choice to me . . . You may also find that "Old" EXR Technology Sensors have Better Low Light Capability ( When Switched to EXR : SN Mode ) then the "Newer" generations of Small Sensor Cameras . . . Just Don't get Trapped into the Mind-Set that 16-Mp is ALWAYS Better than 8-Mp - It isn't - Low Light / Pixel Quality can Out-Weight / Pixel Quantity !
When using my HS50EXR ( In EXR : SN Mode ) I can get Very-Decent Low-Light Shots @ ISO-3200 . . . Here's my Favorite Example . . .
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1/2" HS50EXR Sensor in Dedicated / EXR : SN Mode @ ISO-3200
btw : That SAME EXR : SN Mode is Awesome for Shooting HIGH-ISO / Low Noise / Telephoto Action Shots !
I believe you've made a Wise Choice . . .
Good Shooting & Cheers from Orion
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But I agree that the F900EXR is an excellent choice for a walk around long zoom pocket camera.
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I did decide to order the F900EXR in Navy Blue. It arrived a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately, haven't had much opportunity to play with it. Hope to go out next month with it and do some shooting using KL's suggested settings.
Right off the bat though, I'm not crazy about the rubberized body. Much prefer the glossy body I had with my F70EXR. Just seems like this is less durable and could be scratched more easily.
Love the sharper display and the longer reach of the zoom. The pop up flash assembly seems a bit fragile (will have to be careful with that).
Right off the bat though, I'm not crazy about the rubberized body. Much prefer the glossy body I had with my F70EXR. Just seems like this is less durable and could be scratched more easily.
Love the sharper display and the longer reach of the zoom. The pop up flash assembly seems a bit fragile (will have to be careful with that).
It is fairly difficult to frame shots at the long end, but it helps to use continuous rather than shot-only stabilization.
I don't think it is. What is fragile (on the F750 at least) - the lens closure. With even one droplet of water, the diaphragm refuses to close. This is a big downgrade since the F200EXR, which had a thick and powerful all-metal lens closure.
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Well, another line of sensors overhyped by it's fans - who may in this case be letting their attraction to the styling of the cameras that contains them overly nfluence their opinions - is...
... the also Fuji 2/3rds.
My reaction to EXR binning was 'WTH is this (censored)', and it was the same with the 2/3rds... so it might have the same positive effect if you loved the former?
The XQ1?
... the also Fuji 2/3rds.
My reaction to EXR binning was 'WTH is this (censored)', and it was the same with the 2/3rds... so it might have the same positive effect if you loved the former?
The XQ1?
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The Clueless is an excellent and accurate handle for you. Thanks for your lack of insights.
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Ah... love it when fanboys get angry.
I don't know about insight, but I have eyes, curiosity, a giant list of past gear that I've bought with no preconceptions and no need for purchase justification.
EXR never really made a whole lot of difference for me in terms of IQ, since the base performance of the sensor was so generally poor. Binning something that's quite crap to start with didn't equal 'wow'.
And every 2/3 sensor Fuji I've bought has been roundly not worth it from an image quality vs size standpoint. However the XQ1 is probably the odd one out since it's size / relative performance may make sense... although I don't have a definitive personal opinion on the matter, since it's one of the few 2/3's I haven't bothered to get (I see no point when e.g. the RX100 exists).
Still, if I had to limit myself to an actually portable-in-a-compact-camera-sense camera in the Fuji stable instead of going for best of class, it's the one I'd likely end up picking.
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Since you claim to have owned Fuji cams, how about you post some examples of your captures? You have been a DPR forum member for 3 days, come here with an agenda, not even a single image (from any camera) in your gallery, and you want to be taken seriously? Right.....
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Only true fanboys get that defensive-aggressive... whoa there dude.
I don't have an agenda, only an opinion based on doing more than picking over a few biased or unbalanced reviews, buying the one and believing I made the best decision. I decide a category I want to update, buy everything I'm interested in, shoot for a while and discard what I don't like. I used to be interested in EXR compacts - and even bridges - because of, again, some reviews which I can now reconcile with being a tad unbalanced at best. As I said, binning ultra-smeary to start with doesn't yield as good results as an unbinned, less smeary sensor to start with.
Fujifilm obviously replaced EXR with X-Trans because it is less expensive to manufacture: they can take a standard sensor and pop a different color filter on, instead of designing and fabbing micro-circuitry.
But look how EXR (HS50) preserves dynamic range compared to standard Bayer sensor (S1). Thanks to Kim Letkeman!
HS50 RawEXR developed by LR
S1 Raw developed by Lightroom
But look how EXR (HS50) preserves dynamic range compared to standard Bayer sensor (S1). Thanks to Kim Letkeman!
HS50 RawEXR developed by LR
S1 Raw developed by Lightroom
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Don't blame TheClueless for not having any gallery images. DPR doesn't allow people to transfer photos from banned account galleries to new ones. In his short time he has been here he has posted many replies to the Leica Talk, Sony Alpha SLR/SLT A-mount Talk, Sony Cyber-shot Talk, Fuji FinePix Talk and to the Micro Four Thirds Talk forums. His gear list is impressive if accurate, including several Leicas, Summiluxes, Summicrons and Zeiss Sonnars plus a couple of iPhones and Nokias. So I'm confident that he has many images that could be posted or put in his gallery. Why he hasn't could simply be that he's a better consumer than photographer.
I wonder if anyone has stopped posting to those forums in the last week or so. Maybe some moderators should join forces and see what they think.
Fujifilm obviously replaced EXR with X-Trans because it is less expensive to manufacture: they can take a standard sensor and pop a different color filter on, instead of designing and fabbing micro-circuitry.
But look how EXR (HS50) preserves dynamic range compared to standard Bayer sensor (S1). Thanks to Kim Letkeman!
HS50 RawEXR developed by LR
S1 Raw developed by Lightroom
All I know is this the EXR sensor v my APS-C Sony's and it runs them close for dynamic range
That's some achievement.
I would say though that whilst I'd love to see bayer replaced it does well on bigger sensors. I'm not impressed with the Xtran CMOS sensor it's disappointing for DR
Fuji were onto something good with EXR but typical Fuji style get something good and then drop it
S1 isn't bad I've used one but the sensor IMO can't do the magic for DR that EXR does
Hmmm, after reading the speculative comments here and searching around a bit on the web, I'm still left with the question of whether or not the EXR sensor is indeed dead. I haven't been able to come up with anything official that says the EXR sensor is being discontinued.
Orion12
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Fuji STILL lists the HS50EXR & F900EXR on their Current Products Webpage so it's Not DEAD Yet !
I personally hope they will Continue Developing their EXR Sensors BUT Learn How to Intelligently Implement this "Sensor Tech" into the PASM Controls. . . Their Past Methodology in this regard has been Idiotic at best and has Fostered TONS of Needless Confusion.
Cheers from Orion
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