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Nikon Users - what annoys you about your cameras?

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D610 User 1867 said:
Quiet mode isn't very quiet, it actually sounds more intrusive than the normal shutter sound. I really don't understand how such a failed operating feature could have made it to the finished product.
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I know, right? It's just a longer pause between the sounds that occur anyway. Mirror up.......wait for it.... Shutter release.... Wait.... Shutter closed.....mirror down. Nikon how is spacing the sounds out making it quieter?
 
My biggest and really only gripe with the D600 is the color/white balance always has a warmth or yellowing to the photos. oh yeah, and the resale value took a huge dump.
 
Nikon USA is not your friend. Its goal is not customer satisfaction or support. Its goal is to take the money and run.
 
Note that many of these are comments about the industry as much as Nikon-specific comments...
  1. The User's Manual is terrible.
  2. Every model should have Wi-Fi and GPS built in [or the option to buy & install these inside the body later].
  3. For many focal lengths, to get the best optical performance, I have to buy Zeiss or Sigma lenses.
  4. Only the D750 has a movable LCD and it's only movable in one axis. A 2-axis LCD should be universal.
  5. The top LCD is not an X-Y programmable array like the LCD on the back. Consequently, it is crowded w/ TINY icons that I can't see [even w/ glasses]. Often the icons are confusing and I have to try to find what they mean in the User's Manual.
  6. The top LCD is not readable in dim environments, even with the back-light turned on.
  7. Nikon firmware is poor [mostly the human interface]. Nikon software is poorly written [like Capture NX-D]. Nikon should cooperate with companies that write good software!
  8. The general shape of Nikon's dSLRs is too locked into what an SLR looked like. There are better ways to organize the various components of a dSLR.
 
Simple man said:
D610 User 1867 said:
Quiet mode isn't very quiet, it actually sounds more intrusive than the normal shutter sound. I really don't understand how such a failed operating feature could have made it to the finished product.
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I know, right? It's just a longer pause between the sounds that occur anyway. Mirror up.......wait for it.... Shutter release.... Wait.... Shutter closed.....mirror down. Nikon how is spacing the sounds out making it quieter?
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  1. Wish my D800 had more bracketing increment flexibility (>1ev).
  2. Wish my D7100 had more bracketing frames flexibility, e.g., 7 frames at 2ev increments.
  3. Wish my D800 and D7100 had hinged screens so I could do waist level shooting as I can with my Sony Alpha. Not only does this take me back to twin lens reflex days, but it attracts far less attention.
Denis
 
Andrew 3 said:
Andrew 3 said:
Seems many don't understand how Q mode actually works. Press and hold the shutter release rather than just pressing and releasing as normal. Holding it down keeps the mirror up until you choose to release it. I don't see any point in Q mode unless you're pressing and holding the shutter release to separate the cycle.
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I'm sure they know how it's supposed to work, it's blatantly obvious:

<*click!*>... wait, don't release yet ... <*kashook!*>

<*click!*>... wait ... ah, here seems like a good spot! ... <*Kashook!!*>

<*click!*>... sure glad I got this QUIET mode, now that that annoying shutter sound is split into TWO annoying sounds, no-one will notice! ... <*KASHOOK!!*>
 
I have a good line of Nikon DSLR's, starting with a D70s (which is the only one I sold). D200, D300, D700, D800e, D810.

The first thing that bugs me about all of them is the 'bank' system for holding settings. Frankly I've never understood why the settings are split into two banks, but the real issue is that you can't be sure the settings you want are saved. Reason is, any change you make is automatically saved, so if you pull up a banked setting, then make a change while shooting, you've just altered your banked setting. Plus you can't set all the settings into a saved mode either (like returning to RAW mode). The lesser, non-pro, models have a U1 and U2 system (two user modes) that is pretty much correct. Not so the Dxxx series.

I have a bit of gripe that the eyepoint on all of the above cameras isn't high enough. I shoot with glasses, and a higher eyepoint would be nice.

The D700 and D800e do have a pretty noticeable shutter sound. Didn't notice it that much until I got the D810, which is much quieter.

Bracketing could be better, in that you can't set very extreme limits. I guess that applies mostly to HDR shooters, but with the dynamic range of the 8xx sensors, that doesn't seem so needed.

I don't like the slow frame rate on the D800e. It's better (surprisingly so, since it's only 1fps better) on the D810, but I had 8fps on my D300 and D700.

The menu systems on all the Nikons are a bit quirky/busy. Thom Hogan nails it on his comments along these lines. There are entries you might use a lot that are buries in menus, and other things hardly needed after day one that are near the top.

Nikon's software .... argh.

Having started shooting Nikon in 1992, I'm awfully used to the way the cameras are laid out, so may not even see some quirk as a quirk anymore.

Trying to think of stuff about the cameras that causes me waste of time or annoyances - really the one big thing is that I can't just hit some menu option to reset the camera to a known state, which is the job of those settings banks.
 
My D300 just keeps on amazing me. After 6 years I can still learn more, but it is a worhorse and given its age, I am more and more happy with its handling, reliability, quality.

Chris J
 
It depends on the model first and secondly the Customer Service you receive if you have a problem with any product. I had a Nikon D600 with the oil spot/dust issue. I contacted Nikon shortly thereafter when the camera was recently introduced. Nikon refused to admit they had a problem and still to this day after who knows how many Class Action Lawsuits. I contacted them again after the flood gates opened and more people were complaining of the oils spots/dust. I asked if they were now going to recall the product and they said no. They stated "They were dealing with it on a case by case basis."

I believe that the lawyers in the Class Action Lawsuits threw their clients under the bus by settling for "Free Sensor cleanings for life." Then Nikon would make you send in your camera to Nikon for repairs. After the repairs, many people still experienced the oil spots. Then you got to send your camera in again and maybe they would make further repairs or replace it with a D610 after China ordered Nikon to stop selling the D600. I didn't get the D610 as I was fortunate to be able to return my camera to Costco (They are the best). People who got the early 610 releases were complaining of the oil spot/dust issue.

My point is that Nikon did not care whatsoever that people spent a large amount of money, mine was $3600.00, to run a business. Having people return their camera to Nikon for a "minimum of 14 days", without a loaner program. So as a customer for over 35 years of Nikon products, you are out $3600.00, have a camera with a design default that was not fixable and then requiring you to send it only to Nikon. Local authorized re-sellers were not allowed to repair or even clean the sensor. You had no camera to run your business and you get back a camera that the oil spots come back. So you get to start over.

Nikon was aware of the problem but refused to do anything about it at their customers expense. If they just would have recalled the camera in the beginning when they were fully aware of the problem, I for one would not be so upset. They refused to wait and see how many would complain. Even when it seemed everyone who purchased this camera had the problem, they still refused to admit they had a problem. Even with all the Class Action Lawsuits, they refused to admit they had a problem and the lawyers involved accepted a settlement allowing Nikon still not to have to admit they had a problem and the consumers were still not taken care of correctly. They got the "Repair or Replacement Program."

I will not buy another Nikon nor would I ever recommend anyone to buy any Nikon product. Their Customer Service is deplorable and their Quality Control is non existent. Then they are aware of a problem and are too arrogant to admit it and don't make a global resolution but "Handle it on a case by case basis" leaving customers with out a dependable camera and forcing them to send it to Nikon only and be without their investment numerous times before replacing it with a good camera. This in my opinion is preposterous and I sincerly hopre that people will stop buying anything that Nikon makes. Otherwise, those that do buy Nikon products will get this same type of "resolution" when there is a problem.
 
The lens release is on the wrong side of the lens. With every other camera I've had, Pentax, Canon, Sony, I can hold the camera with my right hand, use my right pinky to relase the lens and use my free left hand to change lenses, logical, easy, quick. Not so with Nikon. I end up putting the camera down and need two free hands to release the lens and mount another lens.
 
chuxter said:
Note that many of these are comments about the industry as much as Nikon-specific comments...
  1. The User's Manual is terrible.
  2. Every model should have Wi-Fi and GPS built in [or the option to buy & install these inside the body later].
  3. For many focal lengths, to get the best optical performance, I have to buy Zeiss or Sigma lenses.
  4. Only the D750 has a movable LCD and it's only movable in one axis. A 2-axis LCD should be universal.
  5. The top LCD is not an X-Y programmable array like the LCD on the back. Consequently, it is crowded w/ TINY icons that I can't see [even w/ glasses]. Often the icons are confusing and I have to try to find what they mean in the User's Manual.
  6. The top LCD is not readable in dim environments, even with the back-light turned on.
  7. Nikon firmware is poor [mostly the human interface]. Nikon software is poorly written [like Capture NX-D]. Nikon should cooperate with companies that write good software!
  8. The general shape of Nikon's dSLRs is too locked into what an SLR looked like. There are better ways to organize the various components of a dSLR.
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I've been saying that Nikon should not be writing software but entering into partnership with someone (and Adobe would be the obvious one) who does it well for years and years!

Agree about user manuals - all bilge.

The top LCD could almost be made redundant now - and once DSLR's lose the war with EVF mirrorless cameras sometime in the next 5-10 years, they will be. They could go now as far as I am concerned as the info I can get from the main screen or the VF display.
 
MPA1 said:
chuxter said:
Note that many of these are comments about the industry as much as Nikon-specific comments...
  1. The User's Manual is terrible.
  2. Every model should have Wi-Fi and GPS built in [or the option to buy & install these inside the body later].
  3. For many focal lengths, to get the best optical performance, I have to buy Zeiss or Sigma lenses.
  4. Only the D750 has a movable LCD and it's only movable in one axis. A 2-axis LCD should be universal.
  5. The top LCD is not an X-Y programmable array like the LCD on the back. Consequently, it is crowded w/ TINY icons that I can't see [even w/ glasses]. Often the icons are confusing and I have to try to find what they mean in the User's Manual.
  6. The top LCD is not readable in dim environments, even with the back-light turned on.
  7. Nikon firmware is poor [mostly the human interface]. Nikon software is poorly written [like Capture NX-D]. Nikon should cooperate with companies that write good software!
  8. The general shape of Nikon's dSLRs is too locked into what an SLR looked like. There are better ways to organize the various components of a dSLR.
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I've been saying that Nikon should not be writing software but entering into partnership with someone (and Adobe would be the obvious one) who does it well for years and years!
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Nikon and Adobe have a lot of history...mostly bad, I think. They do not cooperate well. Which is strange as they both need each other. I suspect there are some big egos involved?
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Agree about user manuals - all bilge.

The top LCD could almost be made redundant now - and once DSLR's lose the war with EVF mirrorless cameras sometime in the next 5-10 years, they will be. They could go now as far as I am concerned as the info I can get from the main screen or the VF display.
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The large question is whether Nikon will survive the conclusion of the eVF/ML paradigm shift in 5-10 years. So far they seem to be going down the same path as Kodak and Polaroid.
 
No coffee maker
 
The big one for me, right now, is the D750's lack of RAW compatibility with Lightroom. Yeah, a bunch of people have given me software workaround, but it's still cumbersome and not as nice as it was when Lightroom would import, sort, process, and handle my D7000 files without my having to screw around with multiple programs and moving files around in windows. When I copy, paste, and move files and folders in Windows, I inevitably make mistakes. When the software does it for me, it just works.

The other big problem is that the RAW files don't have full support in anything but Nikon's own software. I find their software to be clunky and inferior to my chosen software, Lightroom. With my D7000 I can get the results that I want with a little work, but the Capture NX-D still feels awkward.

Regarding the actual camera body, I'm definitely digging the D750. Like the D7000 the flash balance is great, the auto-ISO is great, the colors (can be) great. The D750's RAW latitude for exposure and color correction is another big step ahead, autofocus is a big improvement, and the low-light capabilities are awesome. I haven't shot Canon so i can't make a direct comparison, but I am still happy enough with the benefits that I am willing to accept the drawbacks.
 
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