Is this proof of, "It's the photographer"?

Started Aug 10, 2014 | Discussions thread
bford Senior Member • Posts: 1,489
Re: "It's the photographer" is a condescending and incomplete cliche
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Joris1632 wrote:

You've just proved my point , "only", "artistically", please!

Your point excluded an important aspect of photography, the technical side of it. You were making an invalid comparison between a book on composition and the technical merits of a superior lens. Those are two different things.

No, I said for someone who already has $1000s of gear a book on composition might improve his work more.

Ok, you're trying to downplay the importance of the technical side of photography. The fact is, the artistic and the technical are both important.

Why is sharper better? What are your universal criteria? Mine are simple, does the shot achieve it's aims or not? Is the aim to convey an emotion or accurately reproduce a test chart?

A sharper lens affects all results, not just test charts. A sharper lens, all other things being equal, can convey more emotion by actually recording more detail. Don't need so much detail for a particular project? The results can be blurred through software. Adding detail when it is not there in the first place though is not possible. A sharper lens also helps a photographer crop more aggressively, potentially saving a shot. A better lens also has less distortion and light fall off, and consistent sharpness across the frame. Most photographer's aims include the technical.

I would sincerely like to know how emotion is conveyed by more detail.

In that case you may as well just take photos of blobs of light and color.

Online there are billions of superbly exposed and processed images of everything. A few stand out because they are crafted, "composed" and created by someone's particular vision.

Which is helped further by having technically superior equipment.

Can you give some examples?

More accurate and faster AF is crucial for sports photographers. Being able to discern more detail in your photos because of a better sensor and/or lens is something most photographers, and people in general, desire. A better lens could also lead to less distortion and less light falloff. A more light sensitive sensor will improve high ISO photography.

The art and craft of picture making is often seen as a sort of excuse for sloppy technique but in fact creativity usually demands a very high technical capability.

The technical you speak of is not the technical I speak of. A better word for you to use would be technique.

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Joris1632

No, I mean technical. Many great photographers were technical innovators. Some even still build their own cameras to achieve a particular result.

I don't think there are many "great photographers" capable of making their own multi-element, multi-coated lenses, AF mechanisms, and digital imaging sensors.

Learning photography is learning to see the world, and to see it through the eye of the camera.

And if your are looking through the eye of a more capable camera and lens then your photos will have more potential of being something special.

If your ambition is to produce the ultimate corner-to-corner ultra-sharp, noiseless photograph with perfect colour and tonal range then you have a long and weary road ahead because there is always a better sensor or a sharper lens just around the corner. And at the top end, tiny increases in quality come with a huge increase in price.

No, the ambition of most photographers is to improve the technical and the artistic side of their photography, otherwise most photographers would still be shooting film using homemade pinhole cameras.

Why not enjoy whatever you have? Look at some great photos, look at the world. Remember people looking at your pictures are going to see what you saw, not lppm,

You see, that's the problem with people that share your view, and the one expressed in the original post. You someone think that just because people appreciate one aspect of something that they somehow can not appreciate another aspect of the same thing. It's like  people that say that those who work more than others are somehow not enjoying and appreciating life.

I enjoy and appreciate what I have, but I also strive to improve upon what I have. Every person that views photos made today with modern digital cameras are appreciating technological advancements that have greatly improved photography, whether they know about the technicalities involved or not.

regards,

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