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John Burns
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ROFL Talk about words putting an image in your mind. You really might need a faster camera than the 1Ds to capture all the action that would follow that statement!
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1Ds is a joke
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Marc Brackhahn
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Stefan Schott
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Jack DuMoulin
Forum Enthusiast
he wanted a day in the limelight and you guys gave it to him! ;-)
Why do you even bother to reply to joker like this?
Jack
Why do you even bother to reply to joker like this?
Jack
Mishkin
Veteran Member
I didn't read the whole thread - following these 100+ thread is such a waste of time! - but I did read some of Roark's replies.
He's obviously not a troll. 1Ds hasn't satisfied his needs and he expressed his opinion, that's all.
But anyone saying bad things about Canon equipment and good things about Nikon is going to receive a rude reception in this forum, even he's telling the truth. Oh well... Life is tough
Take it easy, everyone. Live and let live.
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Mishkin
He's obviously not a troll. 1Ds hasn't satisfied his needs and he expressed his opinion, that's all.
But anyone saying bad things about Canon equipment and good things about Nikon is going to receive a rude reception in this forum, even he's telling the truth. Oh well... Life is tough
Take it easy, everyone. Live and let live.
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Mishkin
Adam-T
Forum Pro
and not mine ?? .... weird, especially as you actually OWNED a D1X - Heck we've all seen a picture of you holding the noisy old tractor!
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Adam-T
Forum Pro
......and bought the wrong camera - read my reply Mish .. Sorta sums the whole affair up as I see it anyway.
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Stephen Reed
Senior Member
--I didn't read the whole thread - following these 100+ thread is
such a waste of time! - but I did read some of Roark's replies.
He's obviously not a troll. 1Ds hasn't satisfied his needs and he
expressed his opinion, that's all.
But anyone saying bad things about Canon equipment and good things
about Nikon is going to receive a rude reception in this forum,
even he's telling the truth. Oh well... Life is tough
Take it easy, everyone. Live and let live.
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Mishkin
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Jack DuMoulin
Forum Enthusiast
He may not be a troll, but he does have a serious problem. Would anyone in his right mind go on a Canon forum and bash the finest camera Canon has ever produced?
It is one thing to express your concerns but it is quite another to use the kind of verbage he did and in the process insult everyone who owns a 1Ds. He is effectively calling everyone who owns this camera a total idiot!
Ah well, I have nothing to worry about, I only have a 10D......
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Are you enjoying all the attention Rourke? ;-)
Jack
It is one thing to express your concerns but it is quite another to use the kind of verbage he did and in the process insult everyone who owns a 1Ds. He is effectively calling everyone who owns this camera a total idiot!
Ah well, I have nothing to worry about, I only have a 10D......
)) Are you enjoying all the attention Rourke? ;-)
Jack
I didn't read the whole thread - following these 100+ thread is
such a waste of time! - but I did read some of Roark's replies.
He's obviously not a troll. 1Ds hasn't satisfied his needs and he
expressed his opinion, that's all.
But anyone saying bad things about Canon equipment and good things
about Nikon is going to receive a rude reception in this forum,
even he's telling the truth. Oh well... Life is tough
Take it easy, everyone. Live and let live.
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Mishkin
Mishkin
Veteran Member
Your post is packed with a lot of reasoning and useful info. I don't understand those who just insult others.
Your posts make people think and see other sides of things they didn't consider before. Canon should give you a "Canon Most Valued Professional" title, as Microsoft does to people who help others a lot with MS products in public forums.
Mishkin
Your posts make people think and see other sides of things they didn't consider before. Canon should give you a "Canon Most Valued Professional" title, as Microsoft does to people who help others a lot with MS products in public forums.
--......and bought the wrong camera - read my reply Mish .. Sorta
sums the whole affair up as I see it anyway.
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Mishkin
Adam-T
Forum Pro
Thanks Mish - I can Smell a real troll a mile off (most own Fuji S2s ;-) jk) - I'd be happy if Canon just gave us poor UK dudes the same deal they give the USA instead of gouging us.. USA Web prices + VAT would do me fine..
$720 US Dollars for the 20-35USM - I mean, Sheesh! .........
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Please no monday morning quarterbacking. It's easy to see he is not a troll after reading his replies a day later. The fact is, his first post was very troll-like and definitely flamebait. Not to mention he just signed up to the forum a few hours before. All three of his threads he started were against DPR rules. Started a for sale thread, cross posted it, then flamebaited with this one which was one of those posts that you say "Oh Boy! This is gonna be trouble!"
Jim
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It's easy to see he is not a troll after reading his replies a day later. The fact is, his first post was very troll-like and definitely flamebait. Not to mention he just signed up to the forum a few hours before. All three of his threads he started were against DPR rules. Started a for sale thread, cross posted it, then flamebaited with this one which was one of those posts that you say "Oh Boy! This is gonna be trouble!"--I didn't read the whole thread - following these 100+ thread is
such a waste of time! - but I did read some of Roark's replies.
He's obviously not a troll. 1Ds hasn't satisfied his needs and he
expressed his opinion, that's all.
But anyone saying bad things about Canon equipment and good things
about Nikon is going to receive a rude reception in this forum,
even he's telling the truth. Oh well... Life is tough
Take it easy, everyone. Live and let live.
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Mishkin
Jim
'cause life is a lesson – you learn it when you’re through' - LB
Mishkin
Veteran Member
I agree, these UK prices are a compete rip off. How about visiting NYC, buying lenses from B&H, and coming back with lenses in carry-on luggage? And you can ship lens boxes and foam inserts by mail from NY to G.B.
Is it viable?
If you ever be to NYC, be my guest!!!!!!!
Mishkin
Is it viable?
If you ever be to NYC, be my guest!!!!!!!
--Thanks Mish - I can Smell a real troll a mile off (most own Fuji
S2s ;-) jk) - I'd be happy if Canon just gave us poor UK dudes the
same deal they give the USA instead of gouging us.. USA Web prices
+ VAT would do me fine..
$720 US Dollars for the 20-35USM - I mean, Sheesh! .........
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Please ignore the Typos, I'm the world's worst Typist
The No1 Dedicated 1D forum in the UK -------->
http://www.1dforum.co.uk/php/phpBB2/
Mishkin
Frostfrog
Senior Member
or, to be generous - perhaps you had a real lemon. I'm a working pro photojournalist/documentary who shoots much action, often under horrible light. I have been more than pleased with my 1ds, which more than paid for itself months ago. When the max ISO of 1250 is not enough, I have found I can underexpose by up to two stops and still pull out a photograph that beats what I could have done with high speed (3200) film.
Adam-T
Forum Pro
Not worth it if just getting a 17-40L etc - we get ripped off with air fares too ;-0
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Joel41093
Senior Member
Hum,
maybe the wrong choice of words Roark!? Calling the camera piece of sh*t and a joke will not get you much approval from this forum. I do believe that this was not the right camera for you. The points you made about it regarding the boot time, review time are not bogus, they are real as it seems. but the way you went about telling people this is maybe overly harsh.
I know how you fell though, buying such an espensive piece of hardware and for it to not perform up to your standards is dissapointing. I understand your frustration. But coming in here and telling people that the camera is a piece of sh8t wont win you any friends.
Maybe next time go at it a bit more mellow, explain your toughts, initiate a discussion about what you dislike, maybe people will help you overcome the limitations, or maybe not, but at least, people will surely be willing to help.
Dont forget, telling all these people this camera is no good, is like insulting them a bit, mostly the ones who bought it. Most of them probably made the best choice for them, so it's not a joke or a piece of sh*t to them, its one of the best tools they have.....think about it.
take care
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maybe the wrong choice of words Roark!? Calling the camera piece of sh*t and a joke will not get you much approval from this forum. I do believe that this was not the right camera for you. The points you made about it regarding the boot time, review time are not bogus, they are real as it seems. but the way you went about telling people this is maybe overly harsh.
I know how you fell though, buying such an espensive piece of hardware and for it to not perform up to your standards is dissapointing. I understand your frustration. But coming in here and telling people that the camera is a piece of sh8t wont win you any friends.
Maybe next time go at it a bit more mellow, explain your toughts, initiate a discussion about what you dislike, maybe people will help you overcome the limitations, or maybe not, but at least, people will surely be willing to help.
Dont forget, telling all these people this camera is no good, is like insulting them a bit, mostly the ones who bought it. Most of them probably made the best choice for them, so it's not a joke or a piece of sh*t to them, its one of the best tools they have.....think about it.
take care
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Ron Hodgson
Veteran Member
A bad craftsman always blames his tools.
So are you telling us a lie... or did you just lie to your E-Bay customer.
Hope he doesn't read these forums... for your sake.
If you told us a lie... shame on you.
If you told your E-bay customer a lie...... get a lawyer.... he can take you to court.... especially since you said here that it's a bad camera here. If he reads your words here.... guess what... you just lost a court case. In some states it's triple damages in small claims court. Pucker up.
If it is indeed a bad camera... why didn't you contact Canon.... if it is indeed a bad camera.... why did you misrepresent the camea to some poor schmuck on E-Bay?
Let me guess.............
Ron
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So are you telling us a lie... or did you just lie to your E-Bay customer.
Hope he doesn't read these forums... for your sake.
If you told us a lie... shame on you.
If you told your E-bay customer a lie...... get a lawyer.... he can take you to court.... especially since you said here that it's a bad camera here. If he reads your words here.... guess what... you just lost a court case. In some states it's triple damages in small claims court. Pucker up.
If it is indeed a bad camera... why didn't you contact Canon.... if it is indeed a bad camera.... why did you misrepresent the camea to some poor schmuck on E-Bay?
Let me guess.............
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Jacques Cornell
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He's clearly had a hard enough time already. Folks, Roark is frustrated, but he's not insulting anyone. There's no reason to be nasty to him. If you think he's a troll, ignore him or reason with him. Leave the hot ammo in the box. I don't think he's a troll, though, just overheated.
Roark, some of your points are valid. But, it's the hot rhetoric, dismissive attitude, and overly broad conclusions that are making it hard for people to accept what you're saying. Ya gotta cool off before you start typing. Also, a lot of us are probably jealous, first that you could afford the camera, and second that you could afford to ditch it. Some of us, myself included, and in full knowledge of its limitations, would give our eye teeth to have that camera. That's not gonna make a lot of folks sympathetic when you go off on a rant.
It sounds to me like you just didn't do enough research before purchasing or testing immediately after purchasing. The issues you describe could have been discovered on the day of purchase, and the camera could have been returned for a refund. It shouldn't have been such a big deal.
Sorry it was such a traumatic experience for you. I went through the same thing with some bad lenses. Returned 'em within 14 days for a full refund. I wish you better luck next time.
'May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.' -
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Roark, some of your points are valid. But, it's the hot rhetoric, dismissive attitude, and overly broad conclusions that are making it hard for people to accept what you're saying. Ya gotta cool off before you start typing. Also, a lot of us are probably jealous, first that you could afford the camera, and second that you could afford to ditch it. Some of us, myself included, and in full knowledge of its limitations, would give our eye teeth to have that camera. That's not gonna make a lot of folks sympathetic when you go off on a rant.
It sounds to me like you just didn't do enough research before purchasing or testing immediately after purchasing. The issues you describe could have been discovered on the day of purchase, and the camera could have been returned for a refund. It shouldn't have been such a big deal.
Sorry it was such a traumatic experience for you. I went through the same thing with some bad lenses. Returned 'em within 14 days for a full refund. I wish you better luck next time.
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mroda
Forum Enthusiast
The ebay ad didn't sound misrepresentative. All he said is it was in near perfect condition - which is to say almost like new. This is more or a wear and tear thing than a testimony to its capabilities. You just like scaring people with lawyer talk or what? Get real loser.
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Has the following ever occured to any of you who requent this forum:
That lots of people who are contemplate the purchase of a camera come into these forums first to get some feedback from people who have used that camera...and that someone who comes in here with negative comments about a camera may be doing so NOT to be a troll as you so love to label him but maybe because he is being honest and maybe, just maybe he feels he is helping someone else not make the same mistake he made?
Perhaps phrases like piece of are a bit strong but for crying out loud, give the guy a break! Why must people always gloss over what they feel is not up to the standards they had hoped for. Would you all have been happier had he come in here after having a bad experience with an $8000 purchase and told everyone how wonderful the camera is? Why not just take the criticism of the camera and live with it? It's his opinion. If yours differs fine then. But leave the poor guy alone and stop berating him just for giving his honest impression of the thing!
That lots of people who are contemplate the purchase of a camera come into these forums first to get some feedback from people who have used that camera...and that someone who comes in here with negative comments about a camera may be doing so NOT to be a troll as you so love to label him but maybe because he is being honest and maybe, just maybe he feels he is helping someone else not make the same mistake he made?
Perhaps phrases like piece of are a bit strong but for crying out loud, give the guy a break! Why must people always gloss over what they feel is not up to the standards they had hoped for. Would you all have been happier had he come in here after having a bad experience with an $8000 purchase and told everyone how wonderful the camera is? Why not just take the criticism of the camera and live with it? It's his opinion. If yours differs fine then. But leave the poor guy alone and stop berating him just for giving his honest impression of the thing!
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