The Economist article on mirrorless cameras

Started Jun 7, 2014 | Discussions thread
spacemn Senior Member • Posts: 1,719
Re: The Economist article on mirrorless cameras

JonTafferOfPhotography wrote:

spacemn wrote:

JonTafferOfPhotography wrote:

Dandrewk wrote:

Zeisschen wrote:

A niche, yes, maybe in the American market. They forgot however, that America is not the center of the photography world.

I am pretty sure that in 5-10 years we will look at DSLR as the transition technology between analogue and digital photography. Some collectors or oldies might still use them, like the rangefinder manual focus Leicas today, but the market will be 95% mirrorless. Why? Because in 2013 and 2014 the Mirrorless could catch up in terms of viewfinder, sensor size and finally AF speed.

The Canikon DSLR systems are alomst technically obsolete, even more with the next generation of mirrorless to come. Lens systems of mirrorless systems are grown up and already almost serve all needs of professional photographers. Nobody needs 200 lenses in a system any more in a world, where zoom lenses are almost as good as primes and speed can be compensated by incredible high ISO capability of modern sensors. The average user still only has the kit lens + maybe a 50mm and a wide angle.

My last I sentence:

Canon and Nikon better play the mirrorless game serious, their DSLR systems might be niche and obsolete in less than 5 years.

I totally agree. Canon and Nikon will be seen as lens makers who still manufacture a few dinosaur DSLRs for the die-hards. They better get their mirrorless acts together, because Sony is already 1+ generations ahead.

when canikon finally make their full frame mirrorless move, I think all others will be left in the dust.

primarily including sony.

that said, I think we are several years (3-8 years or more) away from mirrorless cameras that perform (viewfinder/AF) in low light like a DSLR.

You mean when Canikon do a Pentax K-01, we all knew how big a success that was for Pentax:

I think you are not understanding the technical part of the picture. Canikon are stuck with flange distances accommodating mirrors. This means that especially for wide angle lenses they are stuck with bulky retrofocus design not to say bulky camera bodies.

If Sony are quick enough then they could have 15 FE lenses in less than two years, not mentioning all the native APS-C lenses and all adaptable lenses. The FE primes could be the best lenses made on this side of Leica prices, ever in camera history. Already the two FE primes are making the Canon L primes look old and expensive.

I just think it is a shame that DSLR are holding back Canikon to innovate and develop a system for the future. Even the A-mount cameras are holding Sony back a bit, as this line will become a true niche within the next 5 years.

no the Pentax k-01 is an example of desperately chasing a trend when the technology is not ready.

that camera had all of the disadvantages of a standard mirrorless camera and lacked the single current advantage, which is size.

are you really implying canikon will follow pentaxs failed lead?

that is incredibly naive if so

Wauv, how did you come to that conclusion based on what I wrote?!

If Canikon went mirrorless with technology at least on par with the best DSLRs, you'd still have a big camera shaped like a DSLR, or a VERY thick rangefinder.

What is appealing about the mirrorless cameras is that you can create which ever form factor you like, DSLR or rangefinder or even point n shoot form factor along with a pancake lens, all this mainly due to the minimal flange distance. The flange distance is definitely what is going to be Canikon's pain points, for example they won't be able to create a nice range finder form factor with all the conveniences of a state of the art DSLR. Sony can. Key is if they will be able to back those bodies with good lenses.

Sony have a golden chance here, especially if they can roll out their FE lens range fast.

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