Okay, Ollie 2 and Just a Photographer are correct. Let's talk about this now.

mistermejia said:

britcam said:

The x100 has a Bayer sensor, as has the X-A1.

You will find answers to most of your queries by posting on the LZ forum. It's a very capable piece of software, and free.

Equally, the X-E1 is a very straightforward and capable camera. Just needs the user to put in the time and effort to learn how to use it properly.

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Huuu??? I am not sure if you are aware, but we are not talking about how to use the camera properly. We are talking about how some of the RAW converters for Xtrans are very bad. The cameras are wonderful, but apparently the software not so much. This is nothing new I guess, the one that's new here is only me and lately I have been discovering some interesting things

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LaFonte said:

mistermejia said:

britcam said:

The x100 has a Bayer sensor, as has the X-A1.

You will find answers to most of your queries by posting on the LZ forum. It's a very capable piece of software, and free.

Equally, the X-E1 is a very straightforward and capable camera. Just needs the user to put in the time and effort to learn how to use it properly.

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Huuu??? I am not sure if you are aware, but we are not talking about how to use the camera properly. We are talking about how some of the RAW converters for Xtrans are very bad. The cameras are wonderful, but apparently the software not so much. This is nothing new I guess, the one that's new here is only me and lately I have been discovering some interesting things

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Ollie 2 said:

LaFonte said:

mistermejia said:

britcam said:

The x100 has a Bayer sensor, as has the X-A1.

You will find answers to most of your queries by posting on the LZ forum. It's a very capable piece of software, and free.

Equally, the X-E1 is a very straightforward and capable camera. Just needs the user to put in the time and effort to learn how to use it properly.

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Huuu??? I am not sure if you are aware, but we are not talking about how to use the camera properly. We are talking about how some of the RAW converters for Xtrans are very bad. The cameras are wonderful, but apparently the software not so much. This is nothing new I guess, the one that's new here is only me and lately I have been discovering some interesting things

Ollie 2 said:

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Rich S (britcam)

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But seriously what is your reason to stick with RAW? I mean maybe you are well paid commercial photographer and RAW would be obviously necessary, but if you are using it for hobby there is no reason to force everything through raw then spend your time "developing" it. A good composition and subjects will make all the difference. The raw vs jpeg is just a technicality.

As for lightzone, - the best free program for editing by miles.

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Some of us enjoy post production. I certainly do. I rarely shoot jpeg. Highlight recovery is non-existent and shadow is even worse. If you are happy with your jpegs, good for you. But the “just a technicality” you speak of is somewhat massive. I am by no means a professional photographer but I like to have all ingredients at my disposal prior to cooking.

Others prefer takeaway.

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alexzn said:

Oh, it will look just fine on a 4K screen too.

The root problem is DPR Forums are full of people with too much time and too much disposable income. That's why we see these ad-nauseaum discussions of whether Irident is better than Lightroom or Lightzone, or whatever, and how if you are not adjusting your images in PS, you are not making the best out of your expensive camera. 99.9% of the time its not the post processing that's at fault. If someone wants to spend hours getting the foliage right on a boring shot, be my guest, but please don't sucker other people into thinking that if you use the latest and greatest niche RAW developer their photos would magically appear so much better. No. they won't! If you improve per-pixel sharpness of a cr&ppy photo, its still a cr&ppy photo. Its a peculiar disease of the digital age, people doing professional level treatment on mediocre junk.

Yes, every workflow is a compromise, just pick something that fits your style. But keep in mind that every hour you spend transferring files from Irident to Photoshop and then back to something else is time that you cannot spend shooting, or being with your family. And you don't do your equipment justice by post-processing the images for an hour, you do it justice by getting out and shooting good pictures hat tell a story, and that capture the feeling of the moment. Unfortnately, pixels at 200 percent carry no feelings, otherwise DPR Forums will be full of prize-winners every day.

P.S. BTW, Instagram has democratized image processing to the extent that no one is particularly appreciative of your photoshop skills anyway...

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alexzn said:

John Carson said:

It is hard to take a cr&ppy photo of beautiful scenery and wanting the detail of that scenery to be accurately reflected in the photograph is an entirely reasonable aspiration.
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john carson

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Oh, believe me, its not that hard and most people manage to do it just fine And, yes, its a reasonable aspiration to capture fine detail, but sadly it won't make much difference in the perception of the photo. I would be much less worried about the fine details in the foliage (seriously?) than in capturing the light and mood of a scene. Can you show me the photo where fine foliage detail makes the image work? Maybe a shot of amazonian rainforest, but even then, I bet that one bright parrot in the corner of an image would make a much bigger visual impact....

My point was that most of the photos people take do not deserve the state-of-the-art RAW development treatment. Most of photos that I see at 200% are either the endless "comparison tests" or boring "out of the window" shots with the attached comment of "look how bitingly sharp my new lens X is". Who cares...

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