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A Timex and a Rolex perform the same function. ;-)
 
Yes they are and a few years ago the demise of Leica was all but certain. ;-)
 
Les Lammers said:
"Why do people here have to bash Leica? There is certainly no real competition as Fuji and Leica mainly serve different market segments, as already mentioned by some people in this thread."

It's not bashing. I find it amusing that an expensive new camera lacks taken granted features. Even if I could afford it I would not buy one.
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The granted features you talk about are not part of Leica priorities or philosophy. It is interesting to note that not a long time ago, even the M cameras did not have aperture priority modes... they still don't have AF... different approaches.

As for the lack of IS in the T lenses, Leica was very clear about it: they don't want to compromise optical quality.

For many, the granted feature from a Leica is the top notch optical quality from their lenses. That, and the top quality construction, is what you pay for.
 
Instead of serious photographer who focus on IQ.

So I believe their target just different than Fuji X.
 
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with an average package cost of 5600$, mmmh who is challenging whom ?????


Good judgment comes from experience
Experience comes from bad judgment
 
I bought my X-E1 on HEAVY discount because I have no cash to spare and wanted a beautiful camera!
 
I might replace my X-Pro1 with it - will have to compare side by side IQ.

I have just tried it and that camera is really really nice. It's fast, responsive (still small lag when switching between LCD and EVF). The UI is great, can be transparent if you don't want to use it and is simple to use when you want use it.

The AF with zoom in dimly lit shop was fast and accurate. There's nice balance with that lens, it has nice heft to it and feels secure in the hand (contrary to comments saying it's slippery - didn't have that feeling).

The build quality is just fantastic. Considering it has Leica badge on it I don't agree with most commenters that's its expensive - I think £1350 is reasonable. There isn't anything like that on the market, it feels very refreshing and simple.
 
Corwin Lee said:
Instead of serious photographer who focus on IQ.

So I believe their target just different than Fuji X.
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The problem with your reasoning is that with Leica, one gets both top notch IQ and a beautiful camera:)

Leica M, Leica Monochrom, Leica S, Leica X2, Leica X-Vario, and now Leica T.

Fuji has had success in imitating both the retro rangefinder design (X-Pro1, X100) and the retro SLR design (XT-1). But what if you think about the following for a minute:

- there are lots of people for whom a Fuji X camera is too expensive to buy, so would you say they are too expensive?

- Leicas are expensive to me, and apparently to many people here, but they are not expensive for many out there.

Cheers
 
Les Lammers said:
"Why do people here have to bash Leica? There is certainly no real competition as Fuji and Leica mainly serve different market segments, as already mentioned by some people in this thread."

It's not bashing. I find it amusing that an expensive new camera lacks taken granted features. Even if I could afford it I would not buy one.
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Me too. Lacking direct AF point access ??? Lacking AF lock when keeping finger half-pressed on the shutter release ? Totally lame.

Oh wait, that's the X-T1.
 
Ya, that is a nice copy and paste job right from Leica's marketing department.

Sure, the quality is nice and the optics hopefully are too. But the lenses and many other elements are no longer (for a long time) made in Germany, the thing simply gets assembled there from pre-assembled elements that the cheaper labour has provided before.

Sorry, but a Leica lens for me has to made in Germany to justify the asking price. Not just polish the body shell.

A new digital system that will be obsolete at some stage in a short amount of years has no history, no credit and is built as affordable as possible and for now is just what it is: an overpriced system.
 
EricWN said:
Ya, that is a nice copy and paste job right from Leica's marketing department.

Sure, the quality is nice and the optics hopefully are too. But the lenses and many other elements are no longer (for a long time) made in Germany, the thing simply gets assembled there from pre-assembled elements that the cheaper labour has provided before.

Sorry, but a Leica lens for me has to made in Germany to justify the asking price. Not just polish the body shell.

A new digital system that will be obsolete at some stage in a short amount of years has no history, no credit and is built as affordable as possible and for now is just what it is: an overpriced system.
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My M8.2 was made in Germany, and it had urine-poor reliability (and I don't think I'm the only one).

Granted, some of it was made in Portugal. Damned Portuguese.

IMHO I don't see why where something is made is of any importance. Appart from the end result, perhaps HOW it was made (for example, workers conditions or toxic materials) should be taken into consideration, but not where, I think.
 
the Fuji system is of cause better, but Leica and Fuji have two things in common:

More "photographic heritage" and more on the pricey side compared to Samsung and perhaps Sony.

So some people may think "if I want to spend more money then necessary, then I have now the choice between Fuji and Leica" ;-)

Ok, the X-A1 & X-M1 are not "on the pricey side", but the better lenses are
 
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MayaTlab0 said:
EricWN said:
Ya, that is a nice copy and paste job right from Leica's marketing department.

Sure, the quality is nice and the optics hopefully are too. But the lenses and many other elements are no longer (for a long time) made in Germany, the thing simply gets assembled there from pre-assembled elements that the cheaper labour has provided before.

Sorry, but a Leica lens for me has to made in Germany to justify the asking price. Not just polish the body shell.

A new digital system that will be obsolete at some stage in a short amount of years has no history, no credit and is built as affordable as possible and for now is just what it is: an overpriced system.
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My M8.2 was made in Germany, and it had urine-poor reliability (and I don't think I'm the only one).

Granted, some of it was made in Portugal. Damned Portuguese.

IMHO I don't see why where something is made is of any importance. Appart from the end result, perhaps HOW it was made (for example, workers conditions or toxic materials) should be taken into consideration, but not where, I think.
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There is one thing Germans never have been good at: electronics. Leave those to the Japanese. Over-engineered, solid, beautiful mechanical designs made to stand the test of time both in quality and in style are what Germans do very very well. The Japanese are the best with plastics and electronics.

Before you ask: I live in Japan in a plastic house and shyte in an electric/plastic toilet and stub my toe on plastic walls. The Japanese know plastic.
 
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