Trying to decide between DF and D610, IQ differences

Started Apr 10, 2014 | Discussions thread
FujLiver Regular Member • Posts: 464
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fwellers wrote:


After owning and enjoying my D700 for about 4 years or more, I find myself wanting to upgrade to some newer technology, to take advantage of better DR, Better IQ ( colors, tones, etc.. ), better ISO and a smaller package.

I'm an amateur who rarely uses autofocus. As a matter of fact, for the past 6 months the only lens's I've used are a 50 1.2ais, and a 105 2.5ais.

There are times when I am asked to shoot at a family function or something and then I will reluctantly use one of my 2.8 zooms and a 501.4g.

I was and am thinking seriously of the DF, because I've heard of the fabulous IQ, plus it's the lightest smallest Nikon FF. I feel my style of shooting, which is almost entirely manual, would be suited to the DF just fine. For the most part, I would leave the shutter in 1/3 and used the thumbwheels as I do now, and just adjust the ISO as needed.

I've been working off the possibly wrong assumption that the D600 is inferior in build and in IQ.

Recently, with all the threads about the 610 everywhere it seems that the IQ on it may even be better than the DF at ISOs below 6400.

If that is the case, I may need to rethink, because then, to get the DF, I would truly be paying a $1000 premium for mostly just the style of the body and better files at very high ISO's ( which I don't use ). I always try to maintain the lowest ISO, because I believe even if the pic looks clean, DR , tones and colors may suffer at any ISO above 100 or 200.

The D800 is out for me, because I just don't want that may MP.

I guess the biggest question I want to answer, and I'm hoping someone has some empirical or anecdotal knowledge of, is whether at normal ISO's (6400 and below ) , which camera has better IQ attributes ( DR, tonal gradation, color depth, clean files, sharpness etc... )

Also, can my AIS lenses even take advantage of 24mp of the D610 ?

The D610 is a lot cheaper, has a more ergonomic design due to the size of the grip. I also like the U1,U2 dial.

The DF looks cooler, is smaller, has a slightly better build and possibly better iq. I also like the AF-On dial.

So mainly I am interested in any IQ differences between them. Are the differences just pixel peeper diffs, or do they make a difference ?

Thank you in Advance,


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I have used the D600, not the D610 but now have the Df

The salient advantages of the Df IMHO:

1. Look cool (as you said). Does not seem to disturb subjects as much

2. Small weight and size difference is more significant than on paper

3. Dials are fabulous. Apart from aperture you can see and set all crucial settings with the camera off or on, and glance to see them

4. Ergonomics very well thought out.

5. Low light performance is state of the art

Main disadvantage:

a. Grip is fine for lenses up to 600g but not great to hold for long periods after this in your hand (I tend to carry cameras in the my right hand, I don't use a neck strap, with the Df and heavy zoom I tend to hold the lens)

I have a few zooms for certain requirements but usually use primes. I have the new Sigma 24-105mm - awesome IQ & build and looks very cool on the Df but quite heavy and therefore not a great travel lens and Tamron 70-300mm SP VR for very occasional long zoom

The "dream team" of primes, especially picking one per day for walkabout, are the new f1.8G series, particularly the 28mm, 35mm FX, 50mm and 85mm and also worth mentioning is the super sharp 60mm f2.8G.

For f1.4G DOF the new Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art and perhaps the yet-to-be-released 50mm f1.4G are highly recommended. I know its not a "serious" requirement but Sigma Art series look seriously good on the Df.

Lastly, if you want to be cheap. The last generation "D" primes look very good on the Df, are not bad (in the centre anyhow) and can be picked up cheap as chips second hand. So you could build a formidable "D" series prime collection with the Df for very little cash and have all the advantages of one of the best FF sensors out there

just my 2 cents

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