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NX300 / SX2000 Open Source Code - Remove Video Recording Time Limits and File Size Limits

Started Mar 26, 2014 | Discussions thread
ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
Re: NX300 / SX2000 Open Source Code - Remove Video Recording Time Limits and File Size Limits

Raw Jaw wrote:

ttbek wrote:

Raw Jaw wrote:

ttbek wrote:

Raw Jaw wrote:

My guess is Samsung cannot permit access to any source code/firmware that would enable extending video recording time limits because these limits are in place due to Governmental Trade restrictions.

Doesn't that only restrict them from extending it themselves?

If Samsung is restricted, I am sure they would avoid letting others circumvent the restriction.

If they cared about that I doubt there would be as much information in the source as there is, in fact I think there wouldn't be any of Samsung's camera app related items in it, as that code is not required to be released. Also, you see this in many industries and by and large they don't care two beans what you do with it as long as you're not asking them to fix it (voids warranty but they otherwise don't really care). What I mean is, this is something Samsung has to do for regulations, rather than something done to drive sales of a higher model or anything like that. There's not really a case where this could come back and bite Samsung. E.g. if you modify your moped to go over the EU mandated limits it's not going to hurt the manufacturer. As soon as it's you doing the messing around and is not officially supported by the company their hands are clean. It's not like they put a turbo switch on it and said, "hey guys, push this button to break the rules!" Even that, lol, look at AMD. They even offer the turbo switch, but you need to agree to a bunch of stuff making them no longer responsible if you fry your pc. Companies that care that much about what you're doing with their products are control freaks that we're better off without (cough... Apple... cough.. cough). Those companies are restricting things for their own reasons though, not just because of meeting industry requirements.

I don't see how it would keep them from releasing sources code at all. Anything they're holding back would be for other reasons (algorithms they don't want out or that they're licensing from 3rd parties, things like that).

Also another concern for me is my NX300 would get hot after multiple videos, one after the other.

Would a single block of 2 hours be worse than 4 consecutive 30s? While it does get warm I

I'm talking Hot, not warm.

Semantics,

Not semantics. Hot is not warm. The battery is very hot when placed on my face chek.

There is no thermostat shutoff in my NXx 300.

It's not a shut off exactly, it regulates power in I think three stages (don't have the code in front of me at the moment), and I really doubt your NX300 is getting to the extremes.  If you're not burning your cheek I'm not really worrying about it.  It is semantics, because my battery gets like that too, feels "very hot" to the touch, but as it does not burn me I am not really referring to it has "hot" here, just as warm.  If that's not semantics than I don't know what is.  Batteries get like that (check some laptop ones after some heavy processing), and yeah they're more of a concern than say a CPU (because batteries can explode more violently), but I'm quite certain it's entirely fine in this case, since a 40C environment that the whole camera is rated to is pretty "hot" in and of itself, is your battery even getting over 40C?.  About the rest of the camera: You're aware of the temperatures the cpu in your computer gets to right?  And in your phone?  Your camera can take hot, it can take far more than it takes to scald you.  The only concern about heat that I have with the NX300 would be about the additional noise in the shot if the sensor is getting the heat.

I don't tend to call electronics hot unless they'll cause burns on contact. As I also said, temperature is managed on the device. There shouldn't be anything to worry about unless your environmental temperature is higher than the rated (I believe 40 degrees Celsius).

think there would be another restriction besides just the time of a single capture if the heat was a problem. Also there are internal temperature sensors and accompanying code for temperature management. There are other changes to video that may be less safe, but I think this one pretty much has the green light.

For you to expend all of this thought, energy, research and time toward the NX300, you must be pleased with the videos it captures.

I can't speak for him, but I'm quite pleased with them, better than any other video capture I've had my hands on.

I am looking for the OP's response.

If this is the case, I suggest a possible solution is to get two NX300's and when one clip's time limit nears, turn on the other. At the price point the NX300 offers this is a viable solution imo.

Your budget is bigger than mine then, lol, not at all viable for me right now. Also, maybe he enjoys the tinkering anyway. I know I like messing with this stuff.

Not nesscessarily, I suggested two NX300's as a possible solution.

For the OP to detail his indepth findings as he did I guess he must be a video guy and guess his being a video guy, he has a bigger budget than most of us here.

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