Sony A77 vs A99 for Concert Photography

Started Mar 3, 2014 | Discussions thread
K E Hoffman
K E Hoffman Senior Member • Posts: 5,102
Re: Sony A77 vs A99 for Concert Photography

c0nstrictor wrote:

So it's getting hard to answer all these questions (especially on an iPod in school), but here are some answers to the overlying questions:

1. As for money, I have around $1100 in the bank right now, and this increases by around $50 every week, and hopefully in the spring I'll get another job, so that can turn into $100 a week. I would only need to have my parents "loan" me like $100 to pay for this. So it's not like I'll be loaning $1000 or something from them.

And just to tell you guys, my parents haven't bought anything for me, expect to pay like $300 for the A77 for my birthday.

2. And about selling the A77, I would sell it with the grip, two batteries, the 18-55, 70-300, and the HVL20AM flash. So my estimation is that I could get from like $1000-$1200 for it. If I play my cards right.

A77 Camera is NEW $800 with Grip and $100 off some lenses.

This is a link looking at used closed sales of the A77 on Ebay. The $1000 may be tops with those lenses and that flash. Also remember. The A99 has no flash... so you might not want to sell the small flash.

3. About my photo, I know I have MUCH to learn. The shutter speed was pretty essential, as he was drumming and moving very quickly, too fast for really any other SS.

You assume the best way to shoot the drummer was to stop his hands..

Go to Google or Bing in images search and just search "Drummer"

Shooting I would prioritize:

  1. Proper Exposure
  2. Shutter Speed  but best might be slower than you think.
  3. Concern about noise (a good shot with interesting subject matter will trump noise every time, if noise is that people see... then the image is missing interest )

I have another concert on Saturday, and will be using my A77 (obviously), so I'll try it out again, play with the settings, and try to use the lowest ISO, while keeping a fast SS, and not under exposing it too much.

4. Finally, as for lenses, I am thinking about definitely having at least a 50 1.4, and either primes or a 70-200. So it'll take a while to get enough money to pay for all of it, but it will happen, and I won't be borrowing any money from my parents for these lens after this camera.

You guys have a ton of good advice, so I thank you, I will think it over, and will get back to you all in a day or two. I just wanted to hear what you guys thought of it, and that's exactly what you did. Thanks so much!

Are you shooting for someone? Are THEY complaining about the noise? Or is you when reviewing the images over magnified in software.

Here is a gallery of shots taken at a corporate event. Lighting was down. I was using an A700 as high as ISO 4000. [this link may go away this month as I move from Smug Mug to Zenfolio]

When I showed them to the band later the response was "Those are great, the best shots anyone has ever taken of us" On their site whoever had shot before. shot with flash and washed out all the lighting and effect.

Those of us who shot film are used to seeing grain in an image at high ISO.. Keep in mind we who hang out on gear sites often obsesses about gear will often work against the "ART" We look for lenses without lens flair while movies and computer animation work hard to put flair back into for artistic reasons and "realism"

We obsesses about noise.. while programs like Photoshop put in filters to add noise back into images..

Try some ISO 2500, 3200, 4000 on the A77. Try to use a lens where you don't have to CROP to fill the frame. So the images pick up the noise reduction when scaled for use. I tend to apply no extra NR at all to ISO 1600 A77 shots.. only at ISO 3200 do I start to add some for prints..

Instead of chasing 1 maybe 2 stops of noise. that in good PP can be minimized and spending your money on the A99 now. Start getting better lenses. Look at a 70-300 F2.8 (Minolta, sigma, Tamron) used from a good source should be fine.

It just an opinion... but work on the Art not the Nits that we obsess about on gear sites.. A concert is art with a loose framework.. but the best ones are not mapped to every note and every motion.. but about the artists making music and emotion and the rawness,. Your photography can communicate the same with a little noise and even a little motion blur.

Just an opinion..

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