Why is the 42.5 F/1.2 $1600 when the Fuji 56mm F/1.2 is only $1000?

Started Mar 2, 2014 | Discussions thread
MOD Tom Caldwell Forum Pro • Posts: 30,520
Wants versus can't affords

Amin Sabet wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

Ideally, we would like to think that the Panasonic 42.5 / 1.2 is a significantly superior lens to the Fuji 56 / 1.2, and that's why it costs more.

Right now there are few samples and tests out there, and most people are implying that they should cost a similar amount because they are both fast teles, but in reality better lenses are worth more money, and we don't yet know if one of these lenses is better. If the Fuji lens is as good as or better than the Panasonic (sharpness, color fringing, autofocus, build, etc), then it will be, IMO, a bargain. But the price comparison is premature until we know how good these lenses are.

Also interesting to consider the value of OIS in itself. To me it's worthless because I get ~2 stops from it, and my IBIS gives me about 3 stops with this lens (OIS disabled). But to someone using a Panasonic body, OIS alone may give a few hundred dollars' value, worth considering in comparison to the Fuji package.

Good points all round. I am in the market for a Nocticron, in fact I bought a GM1 with that in mind. The "ridiculous" idea of a Nocticron on the tiny GM1, but IS and AF will make the combination pretty easy to use and an extremely compact rendition combination for this particular lens. And if my findings so far are any guide then the GM1 gives away nothing much more than user conveniences to the larger M4/3 siblings.

If value has to be considered then I already have (for some time) a Voigtlander Classic 40mm f1.4. I bought it second hand but even at full retail it is not only cheaper but smaller than the Fuji or Panasonic "equivalent". Small sacrifices relation to lens speed, focal length, lack of IS and MF only accepted. It is a good lens but I still want a Nocticron.

"Wants" can often supersede "value" and "can't affords" make price a big hurdle. Let others not confuse "want but can't afford" with "good value". The price tends to get forgotten sometime after any purchase has been completed. If it is not seen as good value then it is best to give the product a miss rather than trying to argue it down to a personal price point. Surely if enough maybe customers avoid a purchase then the price may in fact mysteriously reduce after the anxious early adopters have covered the development costs.

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