4K video, Sony has just lost a good PR opportunity

Started Feb 7, 2014 | Discussions thread
Aberaeron Senior Member • Posts: 6,318
Re: 4K is just a gimmick like 3D and curved TV's ?

ronfab1 wrote:

Aberaeron wrote:

Sam_Oslo wrote:

Sonyshine wrote:

I'm not convinced that 4K is the next 'big thing'

Until global broadcasters have lots of 4K content and more critically - the means to broadcast 4K -then nothing will drive the purchase of 4K TV's and therefore no-one will have anywhere to view their 4K videos....

Exactly, yes there is a shortage for 4K content. But it means that you can make good money on 4k video.

After this Panasonic announcement of 4K-capable Lumix DMC-GH4, more manufacturers will follow the trend, and soon people/we can shoot 4k without a huge investment. I believe now the 4k video is going to pick up really fast.

I suspect 4K will be like 3D.

I don't think so. The 3D didn't survive because it was too complicated to fit into the living rooms. The 4k video is just as simple as HD video, with much better quality. The biggest obstacle was the lack of affordable 4k-capapable cameras (which is solved now), The prices of 4k TV/devices are falling really fast too, and Lumix DMC-GH4 and similar cameras will provide the contents too.

The TV manufacturers will make a huge fuss about it.... and the public will take little notice.

You bet, this is where TV manufacturers will be making their money on coming years., and they will make sure that the public notice it, for sure. "Old" HD-TVs are going for dumping prices now, there is no profit there any longer

Of course no-one is going to mind having 4K in a camera - I guess its just a bit of possible future proofing - but many cameras have 3D abilities and I bet almost no-one uses it.

I believe many photographers/videographers will find a good reason to use 4k cameras, because there is a huge opportunity for making money.

I don't see the advantage to most consumers of 4K unless they buy a very big screen and sit at a distance of less than 1.5 times the diagonal of the screen to it. So a 60" screen and sitting at less than 90" or 7'6" or about 2m away. And even then only when viewing 4K broadcasting or 8megapixel stills. Sit further than 1.5 times the diagonal and you will not find a difference between a good quality 2K 1080 x 1960[HD] display and a 4k.

In summary, I remain to be convinced, even after looking at several 4K televisions, including curved screen ones, that all seemed to be set in demo mode and over saturated for showroom appeal.

Is that your honest opinion from doing some serious viewing in stores or are you just repeating what so many people say. I very much disagree as I said on the page prior. I was in a Fryes store a couple days ago and from at least 20 feet away there was NO doubt when 4K was playing on the demo loupes on a 70" LG vs 1080P. Could you see all the detail from far away, NO. But you definitely can benefit beyond that one and a half width distance. There is a different, though a window look to it even from way beyond normal seating for a particular size display. My eyes are nothing special, glasses corrected to 20/20 I guess.

Yes that is my honest opinion, but I'm taking account of the fact that the majority [not all] the 2K HD Tv's in the store were lower end units and that all, without exception, were taking the same feed from a common signal live satellite circuit. The 4K demos, on the other hand, had a dedicated 4k feed of specially commissioned content from a hard drive.

Nevertheless, the better 1080 TV's had very sharp pictures at 'normal' viewing distance. The main difference in my opinion was in the contrast and saturation levels which were probably especially heightened by the dedicated content shot for the 4K sets.

One thing is for certain, I will NEVER buy any TV set bigger than mid 40's diagonal for my [rather large] house. We don't need it and don't want it to dominate the room. My current TV is a 32" and I tried to persuade my wife and daughter to upgrade to a 42" TV before Christmas. They refused point blank.

And another thing is that even though the current TV is a HD 1080 unit, I hardly ever watch any 1080 content on it. We do not subscribe to HD satellite and hardly ever watch a DVD and have not bothered with Blueray.

Am I a potential customer for 4K? It might surprise you that the answer is 'yes'. Eventually. It's inevitable and even though there will be hardly any content for it and I am not fussed at all about it, if it becomes the standard for the future then, just as I have a 1080 HD TV today, when the price comes down and it is all that there is as a replacement, of course.

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