Construction; and maybe also constructive?

Started Dec 13, 2013 | Discussions thread
OP l_objectif Forum Pro • Posts: 20,776

Artichoke wrote:

l_objectif wrote:


1- I say nothing if I have nothing nice to say! There are many different genres, styles and concepts in photography! None of them is "superior" to any other; and, we also don't have to like any of them, either. But we must respect other people's feelings and expression. If I see something wrong in a shot and even if it has nothing to do with my own personal taste, and if I think it would be constructive to the photographer, I try to let him know without offending, patronizing; or embarrassing him. Many times, also, I like a great shot but don't find anything interesting or constructive to say! I always disliked people who are on their high horses, or think they know better than others, or think rudeness is a sign of honesty (!); or, try to impose their own views and taste!... I never pay any attention to self appointed "Teachers" and "Critics"! More specially when they talk but have nothing to show!

2 - Unless it is for following a specific theme, I try to never go into my folders and invade the forum with old photos! We all have old folders and it is not right to flood the forum with our old pictures; and by doing so, imposing ourselves and pushing away other posts that could be more interesting and constructive for everyone. A forum is not a personal and private gallery! I believe we all have the right of sharing our work with the hope of improving ourselves; but at the same time, it is very uncivil to ignore other peoples right, time and space.

3 - Because I must also take care of my own life, I do not spend much time in the forum. But I also don't think it is very civil for anyone to sit in front of a keyboard all day long to put a nonsense in every single thread! Again, I find by doing so, it would screw up the normal flow of posts and ideas; it would violate other peoples time and space; and honestly, when putting a few words in every single thread, nothing interesting and constructive could be said! I don't consider that "contributing" to the forum, but "spamming"!... And frankly, very silly!

4 - From time to time, we have people or trolls who jump into this forum to mess up. More often, they are rude, offending and provoking others. I always try to avoid them and never go into fight! I like to have my fights face to face but not through a keyboard as some low life cowards do! With this kind of posts, tension and bad blood take over the forum and that is certainly not constructive, educational and helpful for the regulars of the forum! I ignore them; responding to them is only feeding them!

5 - I very firmly believe in freedom of expression and I am very strongly opposed to any kind of censorship! In 21st century, I believe we must feel completely free in expressing ourselves through any media we are using; photography being one of them!... But we are also in the Internet and I understand that, unfortunately, sites must have some rules too!... I only wish rules were limited and we had more freedom of expression!

Some of you may approve some of my rules, but some others may dislike all of them!... It's OK with me!

I have been a member of this forum before it was founded, migrating from the Fujifilm SLR forum to the Other Manufacturers Forum that was the home for Leica, Ricoh & other camera owners not otherwise represented

the Leica forum has been blessed with thoughtful and talented members who are helpful and love photography

I have always seen this forum as an academy in the classical sense

there have been changes and sadly many of its best members no longer post here, having blogs & business of their own (eg Steve Huff, Tashley, Jono Slack, Ashwin Rao, Jim Radcliffe come to mind) but most of these folks drop in now & then with some following the forum regularly

the recent crop of newbies have vitalized the forum with their enthusiasm and the culture here has changed a bit, but hopefully the best of this forum's culture will be preserved by its venerable and venerated members such as yourself

thanks for this stout credo, which all forum newbies should consider


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"Avoid making a commotion, just as you wouldn’t stir up the water before fishing. Don’t use a flash out of respect for the natural lighting, even when there isn’t any. If these rules aren’t followed, the photographer becomes unbearably obtrusive" -- attributed to HCB

Dear Art, I much appreciate your feedback and kind words. You are one of the "pillars" of this forum and your output is always very precious.

I know how much you love this forum; and I am sure you are aware how much I do love this forum. Therefore, we both wish the best and as always, welcome the new blood to this place we call "Home". It is so encouraging to see most of the "Newcomers" accepting the tradition of civility, camaraderie, helpfulness and being constructive that the "Founders" of this forum , such as yourself, have set.

I have learned so much since I am here and I thank it to you and some others for enriching so much this forum. Besides Steve Huff, Tashley, Jono Slack, Ashwin Rao that I very much miss, I must also add a few others like Euston, Carl, Phil Gallos and of course Hans and Bart who are become more rare.

Thank you for everything, dear Arthur!

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