canon wide format pricing and warranties

Started Dec 2, 2013 | Discussions thread
jtoolman
jtoolman Veteran Member • Posts: 6,702
Re: canon wide format pricing and warranties

kreidberg wrote:

I am thinking of upgrading from an Epson 3800 to a canon ipf6400 to be able to do 24 inch prints. I will not be printing very frequently and I see too many posts about clogging with the Epson 7900 if not used frequently enough

The canon wide format printers seem to have less problems with clogging.

Ok let me explain the actual reason CANONs seem to clog less.

But your PRO 7900 example is and actual bad one concerning clogging as that print head ( 4900 / 7900 ) is the worst print head EPSON has produced.

Your current 3800 is very good. I have two of them and they never clog on me. Regardless of whether I run them on OEM or even on Refillable carts and various ink sets.

The Epson heads contain a finite number of nozzles. You can count them individually in your 3800 nozzle checks. If one clogs, you need to unclog it using various methods. So each nozzle that may go bad actually counts and causes an actual nozzle deficit which will affect your printer image quality.

There are also differences in the structure of the microtubules of the heads which gets into other factors. There papers about this somewhere but I truly do not understand half of what they say.

The Canon heads also use a similar number of nozzles to do actual printing BUT they have tons of non used redundant nozzles that will come into play the second one printing nozzle clogs or goes bad. So you never even realize that a nozzle has either become clogged or gone bad as in burned out. Why Burned Out? Because Canon heads are thermal and basically use a resistor ( I think ) to violently cause a bit of ink to boil and this little explosion expulses the droplet of ink out of the nozzle and deposits it onto the paper. The process actually cause a minute but cumulative detrimental / destructive effect on the nozzles. As more nozzles die, others immediately come in to replace them and eventually, when no more redundant nozzles are available, the head will need to be replaced. Thank God they are user replaceable so no problem there. But heads for the ipf6400 can be a bit expensive.

So if you compare the lifespan of an EPSON head that the user has maintained well by NOT allowing the printer to sit idle for weeks on end ( BAD ) with an equivalent CANON head, which seems to never clog ( it actually does but it uses other nozzles to replace them ), their life span may actually be about the same.

Still, the EPSON heads are not user replaceable so you will pay $$$. So you will have to maintain the EPSON printer more religiously than the CANON.

The ipf6400 does produce amazing prints as does the PRO 7900 when it is working correctly. the X900 series truly needs to be used almost daily to keep is working perfectly.

Search posts and reports about the PRO 4900 head clog problems ( same head ).

Joe

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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/CX7400/R1900/R2000/R2400/R2880/PRO3800/R340/R380/1400/Artisan 725/Canon Pro9000MKII/Canon PRO9500 MKII / PRO-100
My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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