the K3 is perfectly tiimed to hit C and N where they hurt

Started Nov 4, 2013 | Discussions thread
John_A_G Veteran Member • Posts: 7,679
Re: Don't bet on it ... Nikon may materialise D400 out of thin air.

Zvonimir Tosic wrote:

paulkienitz wrote:

Of course, those wanting a fast camera may be rather disappointed with SDM, so if (as faintly rumored) they are working on updates of the star lenses with new motors, they'd better be quick about it, before the D7200 and 80D come out with major speed upgrades.

K-3 is a very fine camera, but Pentax is merely catching up with it with the rest of the more advanced world. And yes, they have finally caught with it, but there is nothing at this moment that either C or N users can truly benefit by going to Pentax alone. (Unless they want to change the flavour of their photography completely.)

They will most likely demand same levels of motorised lens performance, which SDM lenses unfortunately cannot provide.

It's not the camera alone, it's a complex system. Pentax has never had any aspirations to strive to please the professionals, and therefore to have an excuse for continuous investment in advanced technologies. Therefore, it has fallen prey to its own mediocrity.

K-3 is only a first baby step forward — let's not get too enthusiastic about it. We still have no idea what will happen to flagship DA* zoom lenses and primes for example — and with that level of obscurity, even I as a Pentaxian cannot use to persuade anyone to switch for good.

Exactly so.  K-3 is a great step to try and catch-up to Canon and Nikon in action photography but without the lenses they are not there.  Not enough to get any real number of Canon and Nikon action shooters over.

In regards to K-3, neither C or N give a damn about Pentax. They only observe each other's moves. If there is a slight chance C may introduce a 7DII, Nikon will materialise D400 out of thin air. And vice versa.

What they care about is players in the market.  To date, Pentax is not a significant player.  Sony is.  And, hopefully, Pentax will be.  But, a body alone won't make that happen.  Pentax has historically had some great bodies but it hasn't resulted in any real market share growth.  It's going to take a bit of time and some high end, fast focusing action lenses if they want growth in this particular area.

But what they are doing now, is playing a dangerous chess game, trying to persuade all the users that it's the FF they really want, and forgetting that in the last 12 years it was APS-C that made their names worthwhile in the world of digital photography.

Judging by sales figures and overall rant, they indeed are asking too much from people; because they have created people's buying habits, taught them and demonstrated with excellent APS-C designs such are 7D, D300, D7000, etc. that there is actually nothing wrong with the APS-C DSLR at all.
They have made us smarter, and now they want to make us all dumber ... it doesn't work.


What Canon and Nikon are doing is trying to keep price points up.  It's not really that dangerous of a game.  It's a necessary profitability game.  It's also something they've clearly had planned all along - the vast majority of their lens investment has been in full-frame compatible lenses.  And, they have marketing on their side.  The public has been conditioned: if presented with a 20mp camera and a 16mp camera the public will assume 20mp is better.  Same with full frame vs. aps-c.  If presented with 24mp full frame and 24mp aps-c they will assume full frame is better.  For the masses, the only balancing factors are size/cost.  Marketing creates reality.  People might not like it but it's a fact.  Just like the idea that manufacturers want to keep price points up is a fact.  That will be even more important now that DSLR appears to be a mature market.

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