NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

Started Oct 23, 2013 | Discussions thread
peevee1 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

Werderano wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

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RobertSigmund wrote:

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RobertSigmund wrote:

All the time she tried to play down the affair, but this goes too far. Now she is outraged and complained with Obama.

I have to repeat: Obama apparently has no sense for what is right and what is wrong. For a lawyer, I find this really strange.

Honestly - spying on leaders of foreign countries is their job. And it is rich expecting privacy when taking public political position.

Spying on our own citizens without a warrant obtained with some reasonable suspicion of a crime is a totally different issue - a crime by itself.

So braking international law is not criminal?

It is.

Really? Cannot find "breaking international law" anywhere in our criminal code:


Maybe you should look up the UN agreements your presidents singed once.

Which agreements? And again, US Criminal Code Part I (see link above) lists all things which are considered crimes, and breaking UN agreements (even IF spying actually broke some strange agreement nobody follows) is not among them.

One of them was not to spy in the UN. The only nation that broke this rule has been the US regulary and one report about China. And i don´t think the BND has tried it. ,-)

Again, nothing criminal about that.

Yes you americans are standing about every law,

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.

we and not only we in germany have this problems with your soldiers...

I have problems with our Military-Industrial complex, and that problem is much bigger than yours, believe me. The crimes against humanity in Afghanistan and Iraq created hundreds of thousands if not millions of terrorists who want to kill ME, not you, and unlike you, I have to pay for it, through the nose.

But it has nothing to do with our foreign intelligence agencies actually doing their job and obtaining intelligence on foreign officials.

Be proud, if you like it.

Proud of what? I have no connection neither to military-industrial complex nor spies except being forced to pay their salaries.

But sometimes it´s good to have trust and morals. Thought this should be part of our democracy. You and your country are winning more and more friends around the world.. let´s see what the next weeks are bringing.

Sarcasm is not going to help you make your point. It does not change reality in a bit. I think people in your country are more outraged that THEIR calls where traced that their politicians were spied on.

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