Sony mirrorless FullFrame!?!?

Started Oct 4, 2013 | Discussions thread
sean lancaster
sean lancaster Veteran Member • Posts: 7,259
Re: Another forecast

amalric wrote:

sean lancaster wrote:

Olymore wrote:

For the last 150 years sensor/film size has progressively got smaller, for mainstream photography, as technology has improved.

From large plates all the way down to APSC.

I would be more inclined to put a bet on 1" size sensors being the standard for keen photographers in ten years time. The current move to 35mm size sensors is a minor blip in that sequence due to the falling price of these cameras. It won't last long and is only affecting a small part of the market (up from 5% to 8% of ILC sales so far) .

In fact as phone cameras are improving at such a rate and as the sensors are the most efficient available, even smalller sensors will likely be used and software used to create the approriate DOF requirements.

After all it was only a few years ago that using software to correct lens aberrations was frowned upon and now it is more or less accepted.

Sensor size still largely determines depth of field (along with lens) - and assuming we're shooting the same field of view and same subject. For people who like a shallow depth of field then phone sized sensors are not making progress. Neither are micro 4/3 camera. Neither are APS-C cameras. Full Frame is still the best affordable option to get shallow depth of field and subject separation and it hasn't changed as smaller sized sensors otherwise improve.

I have always wondered what people do here if they need shallow DOF. Logic would require that people chose m4/3 because they want MORE DOF.

That has been the aim of photographers for a century and more. Having less DOF has been just a special requirement for PORTRAIT, and not always. Indeed some of the best, have been Environmental Portraits, which require DOF.

Keep in mind, many of us view the "Top threads in dpreview" on the right and don't align ourselves to any one forum here. The title of this topic gave no indication that it was in the micro four thirds forum, but the title drew me in. Also, I'd also note that a lot of people buy a M4/3 camera because of price and wanting something better than a point and shoot. I did the same thing when I first bought an NEX 5N. I wanted to get serious about photography but I didn't know what I like to shoot. I bought lenses that seemed to be what I needed because I didn't yet know what I wanted to shoot so I tried to cover it all. I wasted much money and ended up selling most lenses (still, I don't feel it was wasted money since renting the lenses would have cost me about the same as what I lost in selling them). But there are surely a lot of m4/3 shooters who do desire a more shallow depth of field. There are many APS-C (e.g., NEX series) who fall into this camp as well. I know, I used to be very active on the NEX forum here. There are great debates between people who enjoy shallow depth of field shooting and other photographers who cannot seem to understand the need for shallow depth of field shooting being a key desired goal of photography. I suspect these same debates occur here. Some of us enjoy it and some people (e.g., you) clearly want a deeper depth of field. More power to all types of shooters.

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