How difficult to redesign RX1 or RX1R into changeable lens camer?

The Zeiss lens id already halfway into the body of the camera, and the important aspect of the RX-1 is that it has an f2.0 FF lens. If you want to start swapping lenses then I would expect a whole new lens mount like that of the Nex system would need developing. I think there is a good reason Sony put this camera in the Cybershot lineup. No camera in that lineup is ever going to have changeable lenses.

Having said that I see n. reason they couldn't put a slightly slower 18-50 f4 zoom in there, and keep it about the same size.
 
wazu wrote:

The Zeiss lens id already halfway into the body of the camera, and the important aspect of the RX-1 is that it has an f2.0 FF lens. If you want to start swapping lenses then I would expect a whole new lens mount like that of the Nex system would need developing. I think there is a good reason Sony put this camera in the Cybershot lineup. No camera in that lineup is ever going to have changeable lenses.

Having said that I see n. reason they couldn't put a slightly slower 18-50 f4 zoom in there, and keep it about the same size.

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Additionally, there is under 2mm space between the lens and sensor, which is manually-shimmed during construction to ensure precise parallel placement.

It has a leaf shutter, which means the shutter is in the lens... so every lens would have to be equipped that way.

Basically, if the desire is RX1-like ILC Sony would have to develop a whole new lens line (designed from scratch, not re-purposed) and mount system that still would not be as precise as what exists with the RX1.

These are just the obvious limitations... not sure what other crammed in electronics would be impacted by trying to convert it into an ILC.
 
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2 FF NEX announcements supposedly coming on Oct 18 or so.
 
I've been thinking about this as well. Hving come from Leica where the wait times for lenses can easily be several months I think Sony should consider a manufacturing process that offers the RX1 with say 3 fixed lens options. So you could order one with a 28, 50 or 90 each of which would be fixed and then order it. This provides for better inventory management for Sony and gives the user more options making the camera more attractive. I would actually prefer to carry two fixed lens cameras of the RX1 size than go through lens changing process during the day of shooting.
 
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1JB wrote:

I've been thinking about this as well. Hving come from Leica where the wait times for lenses can easily be several months I think Sony should consider a manufacturing process that offers the RX1 with say 3 fixed lens options. So you could order one with a 28, 50 or 90 each of which would be fixed and then order it. This provides for better inventory management for Sony and gives the user more options making the camera more attractive.
This is not going to happen. It would be a disaster for Sony to handle such a level of customization.
I would actually prefer to carry two fixed lens cameras of the RX1 size than go through lens changing process during the day of shooting.
Me too, the problem is that I require completely different FL than you.
 
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1JB wrote:

I've been thinking about this as well. Hving come from Leica where the wait times for lenses can easily be several months I think Sony should consider a manufacturing process that offers the RX1 with say 3 fixed lens options. So you could order one with a 28, 50 or 90 each of which would be fixed and then order it. This provides for better inventory management for Sony and gives the user more options making the camera more attractive.
This is not going to happen. It would be a disaster for Sony to handle such a level of customization.
I would actually prefer to carry two fixed lens cameras of the RX1 size than go through lens changing process during the day of shooting.
Me too, the problem is that I require completely different FL than you.
 
1JB wrote:
alterstill wrote:
1JB wrote:

I've been thinking about this as well. Hving come from Leica where the wait times for lenses can easily be several months I think Sony should consider a manufacturing process that offers the RX1 with say 3 fixed lens options. So you could order one with a 28, 50 or 90 each of which would be fixed and then order it. This provides for better inventory management for Sony and gives the user more options making the camera more attractive.
This is not going to happen. It would be a disaster for Sony to handle such a level of customization.
I would actually prefer to carry two fixed lens cameras of the RX1 size than go through lens changing process during the day of shooting.
Me too, the problem is that I require completely different FL than you.
 
1JB wrote:
alterstill wrote:
1JB wrote:

I've been thinking about this as well. Hving come from Leica where the wait times for lenses can easily be several months I think Sony should consider a manufacturing process that offers the RX1 with say 3 fixed lens options. So you could order one with a 28, 50 or 90 each of which would be fixed and then order it. This provides for better inventory management for Sony and gives the user more options making the camera more attractive.
This is not going to happen. It would be a disaster for Sony to handle such a level of customization.
I would actually prefer to carry two fixed lens cameras of the RX1 size than go through lens changing process during the day of shooting.
Me too, the problem is that I require completely different FL than you.

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Sony already makes interchangealbe lenses and bodies. If you assume Sony can make the RX1 with fixed lenses of diferent focal length there is no level of customization to offering 3 and filling the orders over a couple of months as they come in. It's actually an excellent form of production and inventory control as opposed to mass producing thousands of cameras with fixed focal lengths and hoping you got supply and demand right. Just in time production for customer orders is even a superior model for cameras with interchangeable lenses. Inventory is overhead until it's sold. The less inventory suppliers and producers have on hand the better, barring a natural disaster which shuts down supplies and production. It also eliminates the unpredicatability of consumer demands for particular focal lengths.
Yes, inventory management theory looks good on paper but natural disasters happen all the time. The natural disaster in Asia Pacific a couple of years ago devastated the camera industry. The business I am in had our production devastated by multiple Gulf Coast hurricanes over the course of several years resulting in massive share loss taking 4 more years to get back to where it was (but at the time we had impeccable inventory control!). After the first hurricane our reaction was "luckily these things don't happen very often"... but after Dennis and Katrina came Rita and Ike... we finally learned the definition of stupidity/insanity.

Sony's Natural Disasters

If Sony Corporation thinks at all like the corporation I work for they now have inventory squirreled away across multiple geographies, because the millions saved through exceptional inventory control gets wiped out with one "aw sh!t" that results in 10's if not 100's of millions of dollars of revenue loss plus millions more investment in marketing to get the business back to where it was. Supply outages can be a real brand killer just as we know increased distribution drives brand growth.
 
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My first response is why? My second response is, it is possible but very,very unlikely. There isn't enough cross-sectional relestate available to do the things that would have to be done to accomodate interchangeable lenses. In the final analysis, different camera and category.

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miro3 wrote:

2 FF NEX announcements supposedly coming on Oct 18 or so.
I believe the new cameras will not be NEX but a refinement of the RX1 with a centred built-in viewfinder, the ability to change lenses and a beefier grip.
 

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