would you rather force to work or find a job?

Started Sep 24, 2013 | Discussions thread
57even Forum Pro • Posts: 11,002
Re: The Democratic Socialist answer to the question is not that complex.

Chato wrote:

First of course, there is PLENTY of work that needs to be done. The CBO states that there are 70,000 bridges and tunnels ready to collapse.

The rail infrastructure is that of the early 20th Century.

The cell phone onfrastructure and the electric grid are the worst in the developed world. And there is much else to be done.

So finding work would be rediculously easy.

Second, no Democratic government would FORCE anyone to work. On the other hand, if you are able to work, then you should either accept one of these jobs, OR get no benefits from society. Government welfare should only go to those unable for physical or mental reasons.

Society has an obligation to take care of those unable to support themselves. It has no obligation to support those who choose not to participate.

And of course, these new jobs MUST pay enough to keep those working out of poverty.


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"Everyone who has ever lived, has lived in Modern Times"

Well done you completely missed the entire point of my post.

If all those jobs were that necessary, I assume someone would be paying a "fair wage" for them, yes? If they are not worth a fair wage, are you suggesting people should do them for subsistence?

Because if so you are re-introducing slavery by proxy. It would become highly advantageous to employ as few as possible so that there was a large pool of cheap labour always available to be paid by the government. Just like McDonalds.

And if someone loses his job as a typesetter at age 50, are you suggesting he works as a tunneller on some major civic project?

And of all those jobs that need doing, which would you assign to my 65 year old aunt?

The biggest bill we have is pensions, not welfare. What do you propose to do about that?

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