Pentax K3 rumor from the plant... shhh...

Started Sep 18, 2013 | Discussions thread
Alex Sarbu Veteran Member • Posts: 8,700
Re: uh oh

robbo d wrote:

yudi wrote:

Alex Sarbu wrote:

Roland Karlsson wrote:

Alex Sarbu wrote:

They can change the body and keep the same battery.

No they can't. That's bad karma.

That's why the K-01 wasn't liked by many!


The K01's body design is a complete failure. Has PENTAX got the point, yet? If the K01's body was LX-like, even using a very different (smaller) battery, K01 would have had much better luck to become a successful product. The K01 makes me realize that the pentax management is losing their sense to know where the market is heading. They just hung back, K5ii, K5iis, Q, K01, .... Well, what is the next?

I hope to see a new camera body-design from pentax like sony RX1, olympus OMD, Leica M, ....

If pentax still keeps on hung back, they would be gone soon. BTW, nikon and canon are different, they simple make toooooo much money from China's market.

Wow, what an insightful and helpful comment you make...............??? Are you here just to stir up trouble ??

It doesn't take much imagination to realise the K-01 wasn't a raging success on the world stage, but why would they re- run it in a different color for the Japanese market again...? The K-01 was introduced around the time of the Ricoh takeover and had plenty of positive aspects to it, many who bought it, love it. Was it necessarily a money loss? it was just a body with the same sort of running gear as K5 and using K mount lenses.

The DSLR market is still fairly strong, the Q design has sold well in Japan and reasonably elsewhere and they are continuing to develop it...Ricoh would not have let them release Q7 if it wasn't worth it.

That's an understatement; the DSLR market is 4.8-5 times larger than the MILCs, and the DSLRs have a higher average value (~21-22%); that's according to the CIPA production/shipments data.

To put things in perspective, to get the same volume of sales Pentax could get either ~5% of the DSLR market, or ~25% of the MILC one. For the same value, it's ~29-30% of the MILC market. A fraction of the DSLR market is equivalent to being a leader on the MILC one.

Of course, neither the DSLRs nor MILCs are at the 2012 levels (which I suspect were artificially inflated), but at about 80% of that.

The K5II & s are worthwhile improvements on a very good platform and has sold well also, whilst biding Ricoh time to enter the new product.

"they would be gone soon" ....where do you make this up from ? Where is your facts on figures on Ricoh / Pentax's financial situation......does being a big company always equate to profit?? Like Nikon and Canon. Is everyone who doesn't sell as many cameras as Nikon and Canon ready for the trash heap??

What is funny is that one of the "models" to be followed - namely Olympus - is in trouble; even needing Sony's financial aid. Yep, their Imaging Systems division is losing money big time, fortunately the medical division is keeping them afloat.

The new products coming out from now are the first evidence of Ricoh involvement and I don't see them "hung back", on the contrary, new long lens, new flashes, Q7, awaiting the new DSLR....doesn't seem like "hung back" to me. Its all about development money, budgets and business plans.

Shutting down my impatience (which is mostly about the lack of information), I would say that attempting to recover all lost ground with a killer-product would be brave, spectacular, but foolish.

No "fix everything at once" solution can possibly work, and certainly not when it's about copying other's products. So it's all about hard work, gaining little by little, competent product after competent product.

Perhaps they consider that 4/3 would need a new lens mount and too much development money? So your hopes, like every other hopeful person wanting something that suits them only doesn't make a good business case.

I'm not sure yudi was talking about going m4/3, but copying the style of those cameras.

Maybe a little more thinking and a little less irrational statements ??


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