Dilemma: A99 vs new Olympus E-M1

Started Sep 4, 2013 | Discussions thread
karmat63 Regular Member • Posts: 126
Re: Dilemma: A99 vs new Olympus E-M1

EarthQuake wrote:

karmat63 wrote:

Nikolai Vassiliev wrote:

Olympus looks very good, but it lacks Custom modes memory. Not big bug extremely useful feature.

Anyway, better to decide based on Lens system.

m43 is much lighter and compact.

I've used and still use m43 system camera, based on GH2, for my video works.

Not so sure m43 is so much lighter then APS-C based Sony SLT system (looks like it's a more balanced option vs a full-frame SLT if you compare with a M43 system).

Here are some some basic calculations for 2 equivalent systems based on OMD_EM5 and Sony a58:

M43 (best option):

EM5 + Pan 12-35 + Pan 25 1,4 + Oly 75 1,8 + Pan 45-200: 1615g

M43 (cheaper option):

EM5 + Pan 12-35 + Pan 14 2,5 + Pan 20 1,7 + Oly 45 1,8 + Pan 45-200: 1381g

Sony SLT

Sony a58 + Tamron 17-50 + Sony DT35 1.8 + sony 50 1.8 + sony 85 2.8 + Tamron 55-200: 1736g

As you can see not a great difference fore same quality system, with the option to use both zoom or prime lenses for convenience use.

And the cost? Look for yourself; I can just say that the cheaper m43 system costs about 2000 € more then the Sony system (Amazon Italy prices)...

These were my consideration when I choose to (partially) change boat vs upgrade to OMD-EM5 camera...


You're not really comparing like for like here, try the Sony 16-50mm 2.8 (24-75 is more comparable to the 24-70mm equiv 12-35) and the Sigma 50-150/2.8 is more comparable to the 35-100. The Tamron 17-55 and 55-200 especially are cheap consumer options with poor build quality, while the Panasonic primes are high end weather sealed lenses. Apples to oranges.

Not to mention the M43 primes are significantly better lenses (aside from the pana 14) than the Sony 35/50/85 easy choice lenses (both build and optics, and I've used most of the lenses you've listed), but they do cost quite a bit more as well, which is a fair point. Now if you say, the Minolta 35/2, Sigma 50/1.4, or Minolta/Sigma 85/1.4, you're closer to comparing like quality (though with a DOF advantage for the lenses on APS-C, especially 85/1.4 vs 75/1.8 - though the 75mm is a really superb lens and narrow DOF isn't hard to get at this local length).

You could just as easily compare the Sigma 19/30/60 primes on M43 if you want the smallest, lightest, and cheapest system.

Sorry, I've both systems and do not completely agree:

1) Tamron 17-50 is 25,5 -75 mm , not so different from 24-70 eq panasonic zoom and with a better control of DOF; maybe it's a cheap lens, but optically it's no worse than pan 12-35 or Sony 16-50 (I'd prefer the last one only for silent motor, but IQ-wise isn't a substantial upgrade)

2) Never talked about pana 35-70. It's a very expensive lens and I've never had any opportunity to use it. I just mentioned the cheap (but good) Pana 45-200, and it is a good match to Tamron (or Sony) 55-200 (if you don't need the extra reach)

3) Ok pana 20 and 25 and Oly 45 and 75 are very nice lenses (the last one is really out of scale, but is a 900 €/$ lens). But I think that the cheap "easy choice" 35, 50 and 85 mm are not at all far behind in IQ department... Of course they're all plastic lenses, but, given the price, if one fail it's not a big problem to buy another one... Heresy? Maybe...

4) Remain the fact that building a nice m43 system is really expensive and the gain in weight/bulk not so essential; not a surprise that the OP compared an EM-1 based system directly with a99 full frame camera (apples to oranges to say with your words)

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