Film Vs Digital (not the usual question)

Started Sep 4, 2013 | Discussions thread
tko Forum Pro • Posts: 12,080
why oh why?

Why do people thinking pointing the camera and pushing the button on a fully automatic device involves some great deal of skill, while post processing doesn't? Isn't it the other way around?

I suspect the reason so many complain about post is that it isn't easy to do well, and they feel left out . . . I'm really curious about the number of post processing critics that have a high level of computer skills. It probably took me years to feel comfortable with Photoshop, and learn how to "see."

(Now, if you mean one button retouching like Instagram, I might agree. I'm talking about paying individual attention to each photograph with custom processing steps.)

cmc1 wrote:

Personal opinion (I'll state that first before keyboard gangsters attack)

I feel at lot of images posted on-line now are over processed and not a true reflection of the Camera users true skills, abilities or passion for photography.

I am not from the analogue era myself but I know a few people who were trained using film and appear to be far better photographers for it.

Yup, I built and designed my own darkroom.

I would be interested to know what widely used techniques were used for processing and what are their modern equivalents?

That would take a book. Layers, masking, unsharp mask, contrast enhancement, dodge and burn, local brightness adjustment, curves. Photoshop started off duplicating film techniques.

Also, wouldn't it be good if there were modern software that limited digital post processing to the same level as film?

What? Why on earth even suggest this? This shows your bias. Especially since you admit you don't even know what processing they could do with film!

It's great to see "straight out the camera, no PP" on posted images

No it's not. Just makes me feel like the photographer is proud of being a dinosaur - except in the film era, they did a lot of post processing, and it was more labor intensive. I'd say it has to do more with dumbing down, a lack of pride of your craft, and a refusal to learn basic photographic skills. You prefer electric lines, pieces of trash, mismatched dynamic range, blown out skies, and tilted horizons in your photos?

Listen. If you're in the studio, controlling every aspect of the photo from the model's make up to the lighting, then you can get it close to right in camera. But outside in the real world, forget it. You're just having the camera making a lot of dumb (and probably wrong) decisions for you--decisions you can reverse in post, especially if you shot RAW.

Post, computer graphics, or straight out of camera?

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