Let's be clear, the ONLY thing about E-M1 that matters is...

Started Aug 28, 2013 | Discussions thread
OP peevee1 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: Let's be clear, even if it does tracking well, it will not...

marike6 wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

... its AF tracking speed.

If it can do reliable 9+ fps tracking with 90-20/2.8, it competes with $6,700 1Dx (+ $13K 200-400/4 1.4 Extender to replace that $6,000 90-250).

Even if it can do 9+ fps with AF tracking, which seems highly unlikely considering the EM-5 only does 4+ fps with full AF, it still will not come close to competing with a pro FF DSLR like the 1DX because the IQ is just not at the same level of quality.

In what respect, given that in sports shooting situation you will have 2 stops smaller ISO because of 2 stops faster lenses? And at base ISO E-M5 matches 1Dx already .

If it can only do 4 fps or not reliable, it competes with $1,500 6D or even cheaper 70D/D7100 (and loses to the latter for the sports, and there are other cameras like E-M5 which are perfectly good if you don't need sports).

If it does 4+ fps when AF is not locked on the first frame like the EM-5, it still will not compete with the 6D because the IQ is just not there.

As a sports camera, 6D does not exist. It cannot compete with anything, even E-M5, AF area is to tiny to track anything and 4 fps is not nearly enough (at least E-M5 can do 16 shots at 9 fps with focus locked which works for some situations). As a non-sports camera, it is pretty good and in fact it is what I have said - if not made for sports, than at $1,500 E-M1 is in slow 6D category (Wifi and all) and will lose on IQ and lens prices and availability.

IQ will be very good, the 6D has great IQ, and excellent DOF control. As far as the D7100, considering the EM-1 shares the same sensor as the EM-5, IQ is competitive but falls short of the class leading D7100.

Exactly. For slow shooting, it falls short in IQ of $600 NEX-6 or Pentax k-30, and at $1,500 will not be even considered by any slow-shooting cross-shoppers (and die-hard 4/3 lens owners are too few and far between).

Correct me if I'm wrong, the new EM-1 only does PDAF with Olympus Four-Thirds lenses? With native m43 lenses, the EM-1 reverts to the same C-AF as the EM-5, no?

I cannot correct or not correct you, it's all rumors now. But it would be extremely stupid of them not to use some additional PDAF information and algorithms to improve m43 lens performance too. Not likely.

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