Sony E 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS PZ (SEL-1650) - Review / Test Report

Started Aug 4, 2013 | Discussions thread
bryanchicken Regular Member • Posts: 309
Re: A different answer

In the UK the only place i could find who do it are:
Its £250+VAT (so £300) which is very expensive IMO and still doesn't include shipping.

I haven't done it yet but i'm planning on doing it myself based on the lifepixel DIY instructions but leaving the dust system in place by not chopping the wires.

With regards to the viewfinder, it wasn't the adjustment to my eyes that was the problem it was me banging my glasses on it due to forgetting to remove them. I found it awkward to use with glasses in place. It was just a pain, for me, and having never shot with a viewfinder i'm not really missing out. I know there benefits such as bright light performance and stabilisation but not worth it for me. I find i can shoot pretty sharp at 150mm and 1/10 and the tiltable screen helps in all but the most blinding sunlight.
I'm a casual enthusiast, if there is such a thing, so i can get by without the vf.

I don't count the 20/1.7 or 14/2.5 m43 lenses as kit lenses (which bodies did they come with? The E-P5 can be had with the 17mm 1.8 which is great, but i don't count that either). They are both good lenses IMO (i own the 14/2.5), they are primes which the majority of are pretty good for m43.
I've had the Oly 14-42 (2 versions) kits and i wouldn't say they are better than the 16-50 tbh, but then the sensor is bigger/better on NEX so its hard to tell. The 16-50 is definitely better built.

captura wrote:

Hi Bryan,

I also have an E-PL1 and did you get any quotes on IR conversion? Good camera but I just bought the faster/smaller E-PM1. Thank you.

I am a glasses-wearer but being a bit nearsighted only, the adjustment on my EVF's works great for me (on a G1.)

I also didn't like the OMD, but because of it's fiddly little controls, plus it's a difficult camera to hold onto and operate. My main camera is also a 5R, and I doubt that the new 5T will be very much changed. Small, easy to operate, best ergonomics, one-handed shooting if needs be.

I disagree with you about m43 kit lenses as there have been a few good ones. Pana. 20/1.7 both old and new, 14/2.5, 14-45 mega OIS old kit, 14-42 II mega OIS new kit, come to mind.


bryanchicken wrote:

Agree, i went into a camera shop with an eye on upgrading my E-PL1 body (which i am converting to IR). I had a play with the EP5 and decided it was way too expensive. Had a play with the OM-D and decided, as a glasses wearer, that viewfinders are not for me. A cheaper OMD without VF might have won the day.
Next were the newer sensor m43 cams, the EPL5 and the EPM2. I knew they weren't for me within about 30seconds of trying to use the teeny tiny controls.

Ended up with a 5R, even though i know there are rumours of an upgrade coming. It does way more than my skill as a photog deserve, so to the checkout i went. Well happy so far with just the 16-50 and awaiting a legacy adapter. The focus peeking (which i've never had before) was a feature that swayed me a bit.

The kit lenses on the comparatively priced m43 cams are not particularly better than the 16-50. Its dubious if even the 12-50 of the OMD is any better as it gets a mixed reception.
Unless you plump for the top of the range that comes with a prime then they're all much of a muchness IMO

Ray Maines wrote:

dan801 wrote:

... what do you think I should do? Stick with nex or go to say a panasonic 4/3 camera?

I totally understand that we all want to make the best decision possible, but I'll let you in on a secret. Most of the camera buyers in the world use the wrong criteria to make their buying decisions.

Truth be told, ALL new cameras and lenses are more than good enough to produce fantastic pictures. I suggest you use the DPReview feature guide to filter your options down to three or four cameras and go to a store and hold those cameras in your hand. The camera that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy is the right camera for you. Ties are decided by price. Laboring over reviews and lab reports is the wrong way to pick a camera and/or lens.

Every brand and every camera has it's pro's and cons, and maybe in a year or two you'll want to buy a new one, but know ahead of time that new equipment isn't going to produce drastically better or even different results. A new or different camera might work better for you in the type of photography you become interested in, it might be bigger, smaller, lighter, more rugged, easier to use or just better looking than your current camera but the overall image quality really isn't going to change much from one system or set up to another.

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