Recent papers and talks on Quanta Image Sensor (QIS)

Started Jun 24, 2013 | Discussions thread
Eric Fossum
OP Eric Fossum Senior Member • Posts: 1,302
Re: Recent papers and talks on Quanta Image Sensor (QIS)

Roland Karlsson wrote:

Eric Fossum wrote:

I think the main problem is that a 12b counter takes a lot of circuit area and BSI is not going to solve that problem. I am not sure what the advantages are of having the counter in the pixel. We already know having an ADC per pixel is only useful for certain applications. Assuming the count rate per pixel is the same with the counter in or out of the pixel, how do you see the counter helping with the data rate?

The reason for the counter should be to avoid any AD converter at all.

But ... currently AD conversion has very little noise ... so it might be uninteresting.

We don't need an ADC for the QIS.  The data is already digital if we can achieve low enough read noise.  Aggregating bits to form a pixel value can be done in many ways.  Just counting bits in a local neighborhood is maybe the simplest way, and the closest analogy to the way current sensors work.  Counting bits in time to perform data compression, which is what I think you started talking about is also simple.  I just don't see any advantage to having the counter in the pixel since it takes up a lot of circuit area.

Sorry you missed my analogy to having and ADC per pixel and your proposed counter per pixel (actually such a counter per pixel was proposed a long time ago by NHK I think).  The point is that the cost in sensitive sensor area is not worth putting the circuit in the pixel, at least for most applications.

 Eric Fossum's gear list:Eric Fossum's gear list
Sony RX100 II Nikon Coolpix P900
Keyboard shortcuts:
FForum PPrevious NNext WNext unread UUpvote SSubscribe RReply QQuote BBookmark MMy threads
Color scheme? Blue / Yellow