Started Jun 11, 2013 | Discussions thread
Adrian Van Contributing Member • Posts: 684
Re: Pros versus amateurs comparisons

Josh152 wrote:

Adrian Van wrote:

It is sad that some brides or grooms are only looking at cheap photography packages these days, as they may assume they do not need an experienced photographer to take (journalistic or fun photos they want mainly they may say), because they may think cameras are simply excellent these days. (Fortunately there are still enough clients who do appreciate and buy quality from pros, keeping me in business over 9 years in weddings.)

I sometimes run into parents who want me to print their hired (low priced) photographers photos who only gave them a Photo disk (and they did not really like the images that much of their photographer, but love the way I print my own from a D700, while their photographer used a D90 with primes mostly and small flash for indoors).

While some of the outdoor photos showed creativity (and okay lighting) which interested the bride I imagine on first seeing their photographers samples, the technical lighting problems in the indoor dimly lit hall photos were huge on these disks I examined, and the results were mixed. Some good images indoors on close range, problems on many distant range indoor photos.

Needless to say, I prefer not editing other amateur "self claimed hired pros" photographers work, only my own these days, or from someone I know is a pro that I hire myself, as fixing amateur photos can be difficult and time consuming, while my photos are mostly not hard to adjust at all, by comparison in any lighting condition, as I understand lighting.

Printing your own photos a lot is a great way to learn how to shoot better, as the more accurate you shoot in exposures to get the effect you want, the less time spent in post processing.

Was the bride satisfied with the images over all?

Plus not all armature turned pros working for cheap produce bad work and even what would be consider an average shot by many pros and DPR members is still better than anything the bride or her family could have gotten themselves in most cases. There is room in the market for all price levels. Some people really can't afford and would never dream of spending over $1000 for a photographer. As long as those people exist there will always be a photographer willing the serve that market.

I will admit there is a portion of the market out there where price and reasonable quality is acceptable to them. In my example I gave, the bride may have been reasonably okay with the photos as the (semi-pro) photographer which was her pick, and she did see samples first, however, the parents who brought the disk to me, appeared disappointed in a good portion of the coverage and commented on the poor lighting quality and some of the compositional choices (mainly on the indoor photos, however a portion of outdoor photos as well) where the photographer was less experienced and to my mind did not have or understand the best use of accessories like proper flashes and how to use them (bounce, fill) and lens choices were limited, and some of his formal posing was in question. His candids seemed somewhat creative which I can say is up to the creative eye of the photographer and interested the bride in the first place. For the rest of us, who spend years developing our craft, techniques and creativity, some of the new inexperienced photographers out there. without proper training or proper equipment, passing themselves off as pro photographers for low budget, I feel hurts the industry as a whole and the expectations of the bride are not totally met by her or her parents.

If you are going to do weddings, at least bring the right equipment, and know how and when to use it, and take the right classes if you do not know how to capture or set up photos.

There is room in the market for lower priced photographers, but some of those passing themselves off as professionals (without spending time taking classes for proper training) to make extra income part-time because cameras are now affordable, should really be better educated in the use of their equipment and technique first. Just saying! Many of my peers would agree.

Note: I do not have any issues with part time wedding photographers who have taken training classes and know their stuff well.

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