D800e with 24-70 on a vacation in London?

Started May 29, 2013 | Discussions thread
57even Forum Pro • Posts: 11,387
Re: D800e with 24-70 on a vacation in London?

imsilly wrote:

I've lived my whole life in London and grew up in rougher areas then you'll ever end up in. I have never had a single thing stolen from me. I carry a camera around with me all day, everyday and the worse I've ever gotten is, "Don't take a picture of me!" When out doing some street photography.

Or some moron of a security guard telling you you can't take a picture of a building because it's private property....

London is a super safe city, you'd have to either be one of the unluckiest people in the world or a total clown to have any trouble. I'm not saying there has never been a crime committed, but I have literally never heard of anyone I know losing a camera. Though everyone I know is either local, or a well-travelled expat.

You are more likely to get issues with a gang of 13 year olds to be honest But you are right, statistically the worst that is likely to happen is a pickpocket on the tube or in Oxford St, and they go for easy targets.

Of course if you are a complete idiot, wandering around with some baggy walmart jeans, a douchy mouth & chin beard, baseball cap and a big old DSLR swinging around your neck you are going to attract attention. People are going to say, "This guy looks like a mark, clueless hick from bubbleford US of A, probably won't know what hit him." Then you might have issues because what criminals there are, go for the lowest hanging fruit. American and Asian tourists tend to be the most clueless, so they get into trouble. I'm aware of Romanian pick-pocket gangs on the Tube, that is the only risk you'll probably face. Just don't make it obvious you are from out of town and you'll be OK.

When I spent time in NY City, before the big clean up, the mantra was walk with a purpose, don't stare, don't make eye contact. Of course, not so easy as a photographer but there are places it's probably best not to just stop and take pictures. In which case, walk with a purpose, don't stare....

I have used a D700 and 24-70 in London. It's an effective kit, but I wouldn't actually use one if I was you. I tend to use a Ricoh point and shoot 99% of the time. Either an old film GR1v or a random digital GR. If I'm going to use my D700, I take a wide prime 20mm AF-D or 35mm AF-D. A 50mm 1.8G also comes out from time to time. You might get bored of lugging around a 24-70 all day and I rarely get beyond 50mm when I use mine. Also ditch the Nikon strap, it will make you stick out a bit and they suck comfort wise.

I agree, I've used Optech straps for years - really comfortable and anonymous. But I do find the zoom a lot easier for general shooting than a bunch of primes. It depends on your style of course, but on the street you don't always have much flexibility in terms of vantage point.


1) Get insurance


2) Take a fujifilm x100(s), Ricoh GR, or compact primes, instead of a large zoom

A D800 is fine, just get a good bag for it. Preferably one that does not look like a camera bag.

3) Don't look or act like a dumb tourist

Very sensible

4) Avoid estates and other public housing in places you are not familar with

Good advice.

5) Don't take any sh*t from anyone who isn't carrying a weapon, the chances are they won't do anything if you just ignore, or stand up to them


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