OMD settings: beginner

Started May 27, 2013 | Questions thread
tedolf Forum Pro • Posts: 25,832
Re: Self reflection...........

Sergey Borachev wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Sergey Borachev wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Sergey Borachev wrote:

Pollo wrote:

tedolf wrote:

If you have the ability to return the camera and get your money back do so now and pick a camera that would be more appropriate for your skill level.


This is a bad advice. Just go to 'scenes' - 'children' for a start. The OM-D will behave like a point and shoot (except for the dof). In the meantime start to read about photography with system camera's. Of course a course would be best (that was a good advice). But don't sell the camera, learn to use and enjoy the possibility's. That is my advice.


Great advice.  Any camera these days can similate a P&S automatic mode, but give much better quality and flexibility.

Including a sub $500.00 E-pm2.

For the OP, the best advice I can give you is to use the Ignore button right away for Tedolf, and also any other elitist or condescending and unhelpful posters, and enjoy the plentiful information and help on this forum.


Suggesting that someone get an e-pl2/3 is elitist?

What should I be suggesting, a Brownie?


How can someone who owns an E-pl1 and used manual lenses that cost $39.00 be condescending?


According to who, you?

Is it not helpful to suggest to someone that they get a camera appropriate for thier own stated experience level?

Why should someone pay $2,000.00 for features they can's use when they can get the exact same sensor in a camera designed for point-n-shoot upgraders for less than $500.00?

What is wrong with that advice?

Beware also the numerous fans of particular brands and those who just hype them, justifying their own purchases, while disregarding the truth about weaknesses in their chosen equipment, weaknesses that may affect others with different requirements.

Project much?

I don't own an E-pl2/3 and I would just as soon suggest a Panny G5 if the OP doesn't want IBIS.  I suggested an Olypmus model becuase he already has lenses that don't have OIS. E-pm2 if he really needs the OM-d sensor.

I would suggest that the OP ignore posters who advocate censorship.

I suggest the OP consider all oppinions and then make up his own mind without censoring anyone.


1. $2000 may be a ton of money for one person, but just pocket change for another.

Do you know if it is "pocket change" to the OP or is he laboring under the false assumption that many beginers have that more expensive equipment = better results?

2. Having a camera with much better features than current needs is no crime and not something to ridicule someone about.

First, no one ridiculed anyone except you ridiculed me.

Second, the OM-d does not have "much better features" than an E-pm2.  It has additional features, e.g. weather sealing, five axis stabilizaton for video, etc. that may be of no value whatsoever to the OP.  When it comes to IQ and most customization, the cameras are identical in capability but the E-pm2 is set up to be simpler.

That only ensures that someone can grow with this camera when he gets more involved and explore without the hassle of research/upgrading, etc.

For most people graduating from a point-n-shoot camera, an E-pm2 may be all they ever need.  For most photographers, we all agree (well, except maybe for you) that the better investment is in lenses rather than bodies.

Again, for someone whose time is more valuable and charge much more for their professional work, that hassle is significant, and the $2000 may be chicken feed in comparison to what he can save in time.

The fact is that he will waste far more time trying to set up and learn the OM-d than he would using an E-pm2. It is just a more complicated camera.   Even the reviewers thought that the humble E-pl1 was intimidating with its level of customization.

3. I am assuming you do not know the person and his needs, his financial background, and what his priorities and needs are, how much trouble it could be for him to change/buy a camera...

What I do know is that he said he is a point-n-shoot upgrader.

I also know that Oly and Panny specifically make cameras for that user group and the OM-d isn't that camera.

There are so many eager advisers on this forum who are extremely knowledgeable but who often can only look at others' needs and situations from their own perspectives.   New visitors beware.

My perspective and background is differnent.  I came from a Leica M rangefinder background and prior to that in the 1970's and early 80's I used SLRs (which I didn't like).

What has that got to do with anything.

I am taking the OP from where he tells us he is.

And, I can tell from his description of the problems that he is having that he is in way over his head.

Elitist as in suggesting someone should not use a very nice camera just because he/she does not know enough about photography.

That is elitist?

Is is elititst to suggest to a new driver that they are really better off learning to drive with an automatic Ford Focus rather than a 12 cylinder Ferrari?

You have a stange idea of what "elitlst" is.

Sounds to me like you have a desparate need to have your own purchasing decisions validated by other's purchasing choises wether or not that those choises are in thier own best interest.

It is not about the money. It's about how much quality and ease of use the camera can give its owner.

Money is alwasy a factor to the extent it effects opportunty decisions.

A point-n-shoot upgrader would be far better off with an E-pl2 and three or four lenses than an OM-d and a kit lens.

Maybe you should put me on your Ignore list.

Might save you a lot of self reflection.


I don't believe I can change you or your thinking.  Merely suggesting that it would take the OP a year to learn basics of photography is presumptuous IMHO.

Yes, I would have Ignored you, except you are so absurd it has some entertainment value.  While you are right in your assesement sometimes about others' knowledge, you go way overboard in your assumption and your brazen comments that they can only be regarded as elitist.

Where do you come up with this "elitists" stuff?

Did you grow up in  a Marxist country or something?

Show me where it says only people tested knowledgeable enough are allowed to buy a better camera.

People can buy anything they want.

And I can make any recommendation I want.

Why do you have a problem with that?

Why do you have to control and censor what other people say?

Wait a minute............

you did grow up in a Marxist country!

What qualification is needed for someone to buy a GH3 or an E-M5 in your opinion

two or more years with an interchangeable lens camera.

You need so much attention or you are just envious of others who are buying the better cameras?

Yes, incredibly envious.

And I need the attention.

Thanks for accommodating me.


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