Performance 5D2 and 24-105mm/4.5 L

Started May 21, 2013 | Discussions thread
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Re: Performance 5D2 and 24-105mm/4.5 L

billythek wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

billythek wrote:

billythek wrote:

A few random comments.

- Yes, the 24-105 is a nice lens, and it can do a good job at times, but it really is sharper stopped down than at f/4.  There are many sites that show this.

- Technique matters.  The IS of the 24-105 helps, but you will get sharper shots using a tripod.  Don't expect too much from handheld shots.

Probably one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read on here, seriously? mine is very sharp handheld and the IS is very effective. To suggest that this L class lens needs to be used on a tripod is, quite frankly, nonsense.

- The 24-105 is convenient for travel, but it's not in the same class as the 24-70II, or 70-200 f/2.8 IS II.  I sold my 24-105 within days of getting my 24-70II.

Your misunderstanding of what I wrote is pretty ridiculous, too. I didn't say it Required a tripod. I only said IS is no substitute for tripod if ultimate sharpness is the goal. And technique matters. The OP was concerned that his shots taken with the 24-105 didn't appear sharp. Then he revealed that some were shot from the waist and appeared to have motion blur. My point is that if you want sharper shots, you need to pay attention to technique. Brace yourself, even if using IS. Use higher shutter speeds to eliminate motion blur. And use a tripod for the ultimate sharpness, if conditions permit. If not, then don't sweat the loss in sharpness, and be sure your subject matter is interesting enough to make up the difference.

Sure, handheld shots may be fine, and many people won't notice the difference. But my impression was the OP wasn't that happy with the results he was getting that way. So he may want to try to do some nit picking and see where it leads.
- Bill

"Dont expect much from handheld shots" kind of implies that it's not very good handheld, no?

No, it implies exactly what it says.  That your expectations shouldn't be too high.  It is possible to do better, but don't expect tripod like quality.  If you are happy with what you get handheld, then that's fine.  The OP wasn't, and was questioning why the lens combo wasn't doing better for him.

I don't know about yourself but when I pay £500+ for an L class lens my expectations are pretty high. Fortunately my copy of the 24-105mm meets those expectations as a high quality versatile all round performer and I've never need to shoot it on a tripod yet. I undoubtedly will when the need arises (low-light landscape stuff) but I've been more than happy with its sharpness overall. To be honest, the biggest weakness is not sharpness but barrel distortion and vignetting at the wide end. Fortunately Lightroom makes it pretty easy to negate those effects. I certainly don't worry about getting high quality shots handheld, maybe you bought a less than stellar copy?

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