New (and better?) Bare Bulb Alternative to Q Flash and Elinchrom Ranger. What do you think?

Started Apr 27, 2013 | Discussions thread
OP plevyadophy Veteran Member • Posts: 4,258
Re: New (and better?) Bare Bulb Alternative to Q Flash and Elinchrom Ranger. What do you think?

UKphotographers wrote:

plevyadophy wrote:

John Deerfield wrote:

Hi Pal,

Thanks for your contribution

Compared to a QFlash system, I think this system wins hands down (it doesn't hurt that I have thought that Quantum has been robbing us blind for years).

I too have always thought that the QFlash system was excessively priced (and I am drawing a distinction between "expensive" which can often be justified, and "excessive). And I, being a bit girlie and therefore like my kit to look good, have also thought that their flash triggering units are somewhat big clunky and ugly.

However, they do have that massive advantage of being able to link in with your TTL system (provided you are shooting Canon, Nikon or Olympus).

The Godox has some interesting features, but to try and compare it to a Quantum with its capability of Manual, Auto, TTL, remote ratio and an integrated radio system controlling a range of 80Ws-400Ws is only a comparison of the skin and not the substance. In fact, many of the reviews of the Godox rely on Quantum accessories to 'do' stuff, or extend capabilities to suit requirements.

Ugly triggering units? Well thats a reason to not use them for sure. The CoPilot is quite pretty, controls 3 groups, incorporates a radio transmitter, TTL or Manual and is smaller, less ugly and more practical than a TT1 and AC3.... and has a focus assist as well. Then, what other radio system does this with the same mode variation and output range? Also, what other system provides a flash with built-in radio controller to control other remote (higher powered) flash as well?

'Cheap' is the hook with the Godox. 'Better' is delusion. If - Manual only - rocks your boat and you can be certain that it will fulfil your every requirement in every situation, then you'll be fine. Lumedyne and Norman are Manual only and would be cheaper, but having had those systems and discovered their limitations I chose to use Quantum instead.

Ha ha ha!!

Got ya!!!

I was hoping you would chime in here on this topic; you may recall, what perhaps, two or so years ago a rather long thread and a long exchange with me on the ins and outs of the Quantum gear in comparison to speedlites and the wonderful comparison images you did of the Quantum gear lighting up a Lastolite Ezybox compared to a speedlite. That was one of the best educations in lighting I ever received.

CoPilot. Can that thing control the standard Quantum T and and more powerful Q lights? Or does it just control that new on-camera Quantum "speedlite"?

As for pretty, I find the CoPilot, from the images of it I have seen (I can't actually recall if I have seen one in the flesh) pretty ugly. I am not a big fan of triggers that stick up in the air like some deformed mushroom; I much prefer the flat type of trigger like Canon's new radio ST-RT thingy because I am a right eye shooter (with left eye open) and hate anything that gets in the way of my left eye. But it's a darn site less big, clumsy (with a zillion cables and connectors required) and ugly compared to the previous triggers.

Does the CoPilot allow for Auto Flash mode (as distinct from TTL) as well ?

I think in that tutorial you gave me all that time ago,if my memory serves me correctly, you weren't too keen on the Quantum T heads as you didn't think they offered much more power (GN) than a speedlite and you recommended the Q heads instead, is that right?

The one thing,and I haven't looked at the Quantum system in ages (I found their site a pain to navigate to get all the info you want; poor layout), I found difficult to decide on is that I liked the flexibility of the lower power heads because the battery packs could be used for my speedlites as well; but I would rather the power of the more powerful Q heads,but they come with clunky battery packs that can't be used for anything else other than the Quantum lights. Has this situation changed?

I am still undecided (yep, after all this time ) as to what to go for; Quantum, Elinchrom Quadra or now this Godox thing. I tend to like to make a decision on something and stick with it for the long haul rather than chopping and changing.

Thanks in advance.



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