HELP! Panic-Strickened 1D Owner!

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Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
 
but I would try a complete system resest at the minimum...

However, I do notice that one of my batteries is noticeably lower in capacity than the other even though I condition both of them about once every other month.

Good luck....
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
 
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
I'm fixing to hit the hay...both batteries are hooked up to the recharger and both are being refreshed...maybe the morning will bring good news!

HELP!
 
... under several different circumstances.

Take several hundred shots, turn off the camera, go to turn it back on... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty battery indicator....

Turn it on cold... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty battery indicator....

Good session... go to to change lens or replace MD and... top LCD is blank again except for an flashing empty battery indicator.

I always carry a backup camera, thank God.

This happened many times on and off over several months. I even had a DigitalCameraBattery external belt-battery pack. Nothing would work. Eventually, some amount of fiddling and the 1D would come back to like.

Finally one day, a few weeks ago, at the start of the Foster Pro Surf Tour competition, it stopped working entirely. Took a drive up the road to Canon Factory Service in Irvine... diagnosis, malfunctioned power unit. They had to replace a circuit board and other compenents. 7 days later I picked it up... good as new. They cleaned the sensor, updated the firmware and brought it up to factory specs. 1 year old and covered it all under warranty.

Great service from Canon! If you're on the West Coast... ask for Steve.

Hope this helps (but I hope your problem was a one time only occurrence.)

Best regards,
John
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
 
Take several hundred shots, turn off the camera, go to turn it back
on... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty battery
indicator....

Turn it on cold... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty
battery indicator....

Good session... go to to change lens or replace MD and... top LCD
is blank again except for an flashing empty battery indicator.

I always carry a backup camera, thank God.

This happened many times on and off over several months. I even
had a DigitalCameraBattery external belt-battery pack. Nothing
would work. Eventually, some amount of fiddling and the 1D would
come back to like.

Finally one day, a few weeks ago, at the start of the Foster Pro
Surf Tour competition, it stopped working entirely. Took a drive
up the road to Canon Factory Service in Irvine... diagnosis,
malfunctioned power unit. They had to replace a circuit board and
other compenents. 7 days later I picked it up... good as new.
They cleaned the sensor, updated the firmware and brought it up to
factory specs. 1 year old and covered it all under warranty.

Great service from Canon! If you're on the West Coast... ask for
Steve.

Hope this helps (but I hope your problem was a one time only
occurrence.)

Best regards,
John
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
Got up this morning after hitting the sack with my two 1D batteries hooked up to the recharger to be "refreshed," but 6-7 hours later one side of the recharger still has the yellow "refresh" light on, while the other side still has the "charge" red light on...

Looks like a BIG problem...but one consolation is that it does seem to be the batteries or the recharger and not the 1D...am I correct in this assumption?

Gotta do something quick and it looks like my Saturday afternoon money-making photo shoot is out the window...

Any more input will be greatly appreciated...
 
Take several hundred shots, turn off the camera, go to turn it back
on... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty battery
indicator....

Turn it on cold... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty
battery indicator....

Good session... go to to change lens or replace MD and... top LCD
is blank again except for an flashing empty battery indicator.

I always carry a backup camera, thank God.

This happened many times on and off over several months. I even
had a DigitalCameraBattery external belt-battery pack. Nothing
would work. Eventually, some amount of fiddling and the 1D would
come back to like.

Finally one day, a few weeks ago, at the start of the Foster Pro
Surf Tour competition, it stopped working entirely. Took a drive
up the road to Canon Factory Service in Irvine... diagnosis,
malfunctioned power unit. They had to replace a circuit board and
other compenents. 7 days later I picked it up... good as new.
They cleaned the sensor, updated the firmware and brought it up to
factory specs. 1 year old and covered it all under warranty.

Great service from Canon! If you're on the West Coast... ask for
Steve.

Hope this helps (but I hope your problem was a one time only
occurrence.)

Best regards,
John
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
Got up this morning after hitting the sack with my two 1D batteries
hooked up to the recharger to be "refreshed," but 6-7 hours later
one side of the recharger still has the yellow "refresh" light on,
while the other side still has the "charge" red light on...

Looks like a BIG problem...but one consolation is that it does seem
to be the batteries or the recharger and not the 1D...am I correct
in this assumption?

Gotta do something quick and it looks like my Saturday afternoon
money-making photo shoot is out the window...

Any more input will be greatly appreciated...
I forgot to mention in my prior follow up...the 1D's LED is still blank except for the flashing battery symbol...HELP AGAIN!
 
Got up this morning after hitting the sack with my two 1D batteries
hooked up to the recharger to be "refreshed," but 6-7 hours later
one side of the recharger still has the yellow "refresh" light on,
while the other side still has the "charge" red light on...

Looks like a BIG problem...but one consolation is that it does seem
to be the batteries or the recharger and not the 1D...am I correct
in this assumption?

Gotta do something quick and it looks like my Saturday afternoon
money-making photo shoot is out the window...

Any more input will be greatly appreciated...
Full batteries can take over 12 hours to completely "discharge" on the refresh cycle -- and that is for each one! When you hook two batteries up, they do not no both cycle at the same time, but rather take turns, hence your refresh cycle may take most of today to complete.

As for your problem, is there any chance you have shot 9999 images in your current image folder? If so, try a "new folder counter reset". The 1D and 1Ds both shut down when they reach image 9999 in any folder.

Cheers,

Jack
 
Remove ALL batteries as mentioned before. If that doesn't help connect camera up to AC power. I seriously doubt you have any problem with BOTH batteries or your charger.
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
 
Just went through this myself and it caught me off guard.

Was heading out to shoot soccer and erased my 1GB CF card. Total image count only showed 125... it usually shows just over 300. I thought..hmmm. Formatted the card... still 125. No time to fool with camera, time to go to the game.

Start shooting... the image counter is decrementing normally. When it gets to 5 images left I chicken out and change to my 1GB Microdrive as there is a lull in the action. Blank Microdrive shows 5 images remaining. Wha ???

I just figured the camera was confused and I continued to shoot. My thought was it would either continue after "0" or would shut down and I'd be finished for the day. :-)

When the counter hit ZERO a message popped up on the display saying something about the foldering being full and did I want to continue with new folder or reset (or some similar message). I'm in the middle of a game and it's hard to read the display in the sunlight so I just hit "OK" or whatever it wanted and viola.... back at 330+ counter and now in folder 102 instead of 101.

I'm sure many of you have gone through this already but I don't remember reading this characteristic in the manual... or I read it and didnt understand what they were talking about.

In any event, it was a little nerve racking the first time.. especially in the middle of a shoot. :-)
Got up this morning after hitting the sack with my two 1D batteries
hooked up to the recharger to be "refreshed," but 6-7 hours later
one side of the recharger still has the yellow "refresh" light on,
while the other side still has the "charge" red light on...

Looks like a BIG problem...but one consolation is that it does seem
to be the batteries or the recharger and not the 1D...am I correct
in this assumption?

Gotta do something quick and it looks like my Saturday afternoon
money-making photo shoot is out the window...

Any more input will be greatly appreciated...
Full batteries can take over 12 hours to completely "discharge" on
the refresh cycle -- and that is for each one! When you hook two
batteries up, they do not no both cycle at the same time, but
rather take turns, hence your refresh cycle may take most of today
to complete.

As for your problem, is there any chance you have shot 9999 images
in your current image folder? If so, try a "new folder counter
reset". The 1D and 1Ds both shut down when they reach image 9999
in any folder.

Cheers,

Jack
 
I went through exactly the same thing you're going through now... recycling, charging, etc. Unfortunately, for me, it wasn't the charger or the battery. It was the power unit and circuit board inside the 1D.

Since the problem never happened consistently for me and I could get the camera working again after some amount (sometines a lot) of fiddling with lenses, batteries and even using a pencil eraser to clean battery contacts inside and out, I never took it to Canon. Intermittent problems are typically a bear to fix.

Finally, when it wouldn't come back on, I took it into Canon Service.

John
Take several hundred shots, turn off the camera, go to turn it back
on... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty battery
indicator....

Turn it on cold... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty
battery indicator....

Good session... go to to change lens or replace MD and... top LCD
is blank again except for an flashing empty battery indicator.

I always carry a backup camera, thank God.

This happened many times on and off over several months. I even
had a DigitalCameraBattery external belt-battery pack. Nothing
would work. Eventually, some amount of fiddling and the 1D would
come back to like.

Finally one day, a few weeks ago, at the start of the Foster Pro
Surf Tour competition, it stopped working entirely. Took a drive
up the road to Canon Factory Service in Irvine... diagnosis,
malfunctioned power unit. They had to replace a circuit board and
other compenents. 7 days later I picked it up... good as new.
They cleaned the sensor, updated the firmware and brought it up to
factory specs. 1 year old and covered it all under warranty.

Great service from Canon! If you're on the West Coast... ask for
Steve.

Hope this helps (but I hope your problem was a one time only
occurrence.)

Best regards,
John
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
Got up this morning after hitting the sack with my two 1D batteries
hooked up to the recharger to be "refreshed," but 6-7 hours later
one side of the recharger still has the yellow "refresh" light on,
while the other side still has the "charge" red light on...

Looks like a BIG problem...but one consolation is that it does seem
to be the batteries or the recharger and not the 1D...am I correct
in this assumption?

Gotta do something quick and it looks like my Saturday afternoon
money-making photo shoot is out the window...

Any more input will be greatly appreciated...
 
EOS Grunt:

You're jumping the gun!

The charging unit, while it has two connections on it for two batteries, does NOT charge, or discharging them in parallel. It does them serially - one after the other!!! One must pay attention to the lights and know there meaning - steady, flashing, etc.

The discharging side of conditioning a battery takes about 8-9 hours, or possibly alittle longer. Then the charging stage can take up to 3 hours.

Collectively to do two batteries connected to the unit, it will take a total of about 22 hours! Figure about 11-12 hours each.

Read the fine print in the instructions that is associated with the battery charger. I was very disappointed to see that this is how the charger works. I had been hoping for parallel discharging and/or charging....

JT
 
The refresh cycle on the 1Ds or 1D will take almost 12 hours. So if you just plugged in the batteries overnight, what you saw in the moring was OK.

If you have charged up both batteries, i.e. you have a blinking light on the charger showing that it is done, and you still get the low battery flashing, I don't think its the batteries but instead the camera.

Can you find another 1Ds or 1D that you can test your (2) batteries on? Or another battery you can put in your camera?

Paul Caldwell
[email protected]
Take several hundred shots, turn off the camera, go to turn it back
on... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty battery
indicator....

Turn it on cold... top LCD is blank except for an flashing empty
battery indicator....

Good session... go to to change lens or replace MD and... top LCD
is blank again except for an flashing empty battery indicator.

I always carry a backup camera, thank God.

This happened many times on and off over several months. I even
had a DigitalCameraBattery external belt-battery pack. Nothing
would work. Eventually, some amount of fiddling and the 1D would
come back to like.

Finally one day, a few weeks ago, at the start of the Foster Pro
Surf Tour competition, it stopped working entirely. Took a drive
up the road to Canon Factory Service in Irvine... diagnosis,
malfunctioned power unit. They had to replace a circuit board and
other compenents. 7 days later I picked it up... good as new.
They cleaned the sensor, updated the firmware and brought it up to
factory specs. 1 year old and covered it all under warranty.

Great service from Canon! If you're on the West Coast... ask for
Steve.

Hope this helps (but I hope your problem was a one time only
occurrence.)

Best regards,
John
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
Got up this morning after hitting the sack with my two 1D batteries
hooked up to the recharger to be "refreshed," but 6-7 hours later
one side of the recharger still has the yellow "refresh" light on,
while the other side still has the "charge" red light on...

Looks like a BIG problem...but one consolation is that it does seem
to be the batteries or the recharger and not the 1D...am I correct
in this assumption?

Gotta do something quick and it looks like my Saturday afternoon
money-making photo shoot is out the window...

Any more input will be greatly appreciated...
I forgot to mention in my prior follow up...the 1D's LED is still
blank except for the flashing battery symbol...HELP AGAIN!
 
First, take a deep breath or two, count to ten and realize that this problem can be figured out and fixed. My guess is that you have a charger problem.

Now, to bring some rational thought into the process. You need to determine if the batteries have enough capacity to hold a meaningful charge. Sometimes, especially with rechargable batteries, they loose their ability to accept the recharging electrical current and thus have no electrons to send back out to the electrical device that they are intended to power. This is a function of what is going on chemically inside the battery and can relate to shelf life, storage conditions, and other factors.

The first thing that I would do would be to take the camera to a Canon dealer (or if you know someone with a 1D) and see if they would try a fully-charged battery in your camera. Then look at the battery indicator and try out your camera. If the camera works fine, it may be the battery or the charger. Also, the camera may have some type of internal electrical short that really discharges the batteries quickly. If so, this is not a huge problem and can be fixed, but I still lean toward the charger as the culprit.

The EOS 1D uses a Canon NP-E3 1650mAh, 12V Ni-MH rechargeable battery @19.8 WH (according to Phil's review). This means that an average new fully-charged (100% capacity) battery could illuminate a 12 Volt, 20 Watt bulb (19.8 W actually), while maintaining an output voltage of no less than 12 Volts for one hour. If you can take the batteries to a shop like "Interstate Batteries," they can probably test the batteries under load. Alternately, you could hook up a 12 V 20W bulb across the output terminals of the battery and measure the voltage while lighting the bulb for about 15 seconds. The light bulb should be brightly illuminated and the voltage should stay above 12 Volts.

Try these things and post your results. I'm an electrical engineer, and I'll be glad to help you figure this out as best I can. Remember, you camera takes good pictures and you are please with it! This minor bump in the road can and will be overcome.

Steve Bryant
 
First, take a deep breath or two, count to ten and realize that
this problem can be figured out and fixed. My guess is that you
have a charger problem.

Now, to bring some rational thought into the process. You need to
determine if the batteries have enough capacity to hold a
meaningful charge. Sometimes, especially with rechargable
batteries, they loose their ability to accept the recharging
electrical current and thus have no electrons to send back out to
the electrical device that they are intended to power. This is a
function of what is going on chemically inside the battery and can
relate to shelf life, storage conditions, and other factors.

The first thing that I would do would be to take the camera to a
Canon dealer (or if you know someone with a 1D) and see if they
would try a fully-charged battery in your camera. Then look at the
battery indicator and try out your camera. If the camera works
fine, it may be the battery or the charger. Also, the camera may
have some type of internal electrical short that really discharges
the batteries quickly. If so, this is not a huge problem and can
be fixed, but I still lean toward the charger as the culprit.

The EOS 1D uses a Canon NP-E3 1650mAh, 12V Ni-MH rechargeable
battery @19.8 WH (according to Phil's review). This means that an
average new fully-charged (100% capacity) battery could illuminate
a 12 Volt, 20 Watt bulb (19.8 W actually), while maintaining an
output voltage of no less than 12 Volts for one hour. If you can
take the batteries to a shop like "Interstate Batteries," they can
probably test the batteries under load. Alternately, you could
hook up a 12 V 20W bulb across the output terminals of the battery
and measure the voltage while lighting the bulb for about 15
seconds. The light bulb should be brightly illuminated and the
voltage should stay above 12 Volts.

Try these things and post your results. I'm an electrical
engineer, and I'll be glad to help you figure this out as best I
can. Remember, you camera takes good pictures and you are please
with it! This minor bump in the road can and will be overcome.

Steve Bryant
The Canon guy @ 1-800-OK-CANON told me to hook the charger back up and refresh both batteries...I didn't initially realize that it took that long to completely refresh and that the charger refreshes them one at a time...

He said if that doesn't do the trick to ship the camera, batteries, and charger with warranty card and bill of sale to Canon's east coast domicile in Jamesburg, NJ. --- 5-8 business days to get it diagnosed and fixed...

Really blows my mind...in the 1000s and 1000s of shots I've made since mid-March with this incredible picture-taking machine, I've had only one ERR99 --- whatever that is --- then reset the camera and all was well. Never been dropped, abused in any way...baby'd the thing like it was my very own infant kid!

Guess it goes to show you if you're gonna try to make $$$ shooting pictures you need a back up...maybe a 10D is in the future, who knows...can't afford another 1D, that's for sure...really couldn't afford my initial 1D, but with my attempting to start a sports photo biz, a 10D or D60 wouldn't have cut the mustard for the bulk of the stuff I shoot...

Just hope this dilemma will be resolved quickly and nothing else is lurking in the future...all I've got now is an A2E and a Nikon FM...but I'm gonna wait 'til the 1D gets going again...digital has spoiled me over the last couple of months...

This is an incredible rig and nothing is perfect...life ain't perfect...but it's a ***** when you spend over $4000 for a camera along with its whistles and bells and flashes and extra battery and all that jazz and the camera body goes KAPUEE in a mere two months...

Can any of you long-term 1D folks out there give me any input into whether I'll be dealing with repairs, etc. on a relatively routine basis? Talked to a local daily newspaper Nikon D1 shooter and he told me a couple of their bodies cameras have been shipped back and forth to the Nikon repair gurus numerous times...

Is the 5-8 day Canon repair time frame to be believed? Hope so...needed my 1D this afternoon to shoot some motorcross --- a first time for me --- but I'll have to wait a couple of Saturdays it looks like!

Panic-strickened EOS Grunt...
 
Been a 1D shooter since mid-March and love it, but the most
incredible sports picture taking machine ever made let me down an
hour or two ago when I showed up to shoot a spring football game
and both batteries were dead...

Or so I thought...after putting both charged batteries into the
camera only to get the "flashing battery" thing signifying that my
battery is dead, I decided something had to be wrong with the 1D.

Even plugged up my power inverter in my cigarette lighter and
hooked up the charger in the stadium parking lot and charged both
of them up (took a good 45 minutes), even though I was 90% sure
that both had been charged yesterday or the day before. And I'd
only shot 6-8 frames with the 1D this morning and it seemed to work
flawlessly...

What's the problem? Has anyone else encountered this dilemma? Is it
the camera?

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!

Suppose to go out and try to make come $$$ tomorrow afternoon!
Buzzed to the office and got my DC adapter for my 1D...hooked it up to my beloved 1D...still got flashing battery sign...guess that should rule out bad, malfunctioning batteries or a bad, malfunctioning charger, right?

Still gonna do what the Canon guy told me to do...refresh both batteries and see what happens...probably wasting my time, but I really can't do anything about shipping the thing UPS to New Jersey until Monday anyway...

I already miss my 1D and it hasn't been out of commission but 24 hours!
 
I seem to remember something from when I bought my 1D that Canon was somewhat promising shorter turnarounds with 1Ds.
First, take a deep breath or two, count to ten and realize that
this problem can be figured out and fixed. My guess is that you
have a charger problem.

Now, to bring some rational thought into the process. You need to
determine if the batteries have enough capacity to hold a
meaningful charge. Sometimes, especially with rechargable
batteries, they loose their ability to accept the recharging
electrical current and thus have no electrons to send back out to
the electrical device that they are intended to power. This is a
function of what is going on chemically inside the battery and can
relate to shelf life, storage conditions, and other factors.

The first thing that I would do would be to take the camera to a
Canon dealer (or if you know someone with a 1D) and see if they
would try a fully-charged battery in your camera. Then look at the
battery indicator and try out your camera. If the camera works
fine, it may be the battery or the charger. Also, the camera may
have some type of internal electrical short that really discharges
the batteries quickly. If so, this is not a huge problem and can
be fixed, but I still lean toward the charger as the culprit.

The EOS 1D uses a Canon NP-E3 1650mAh, 12V Ni-MH rechargeable
battery @19.8 WH (according to Phil's review). This means that an
average new fully-charged (100% capacity) battery could illuminate
a 12 Volt, 20 Watt bulb (19.8 W actually), while maintaining an
output voltage of no less than 12 Volts for one hour. If you can
take the batteries to a shop like "Interstate Batteries," they can
probably test the batteries under load. Alternately, you could
hook up a 12 V 20W bulb across the output terminals of the battery
and measure the voltage while lighting the bulb for about 15
seconds. The light bulb should be brightly illuminated and the
voltage should stay above 12 Volts.

Try these things and post your results. I'm an electrical
engineer, and I'll be glad to help you figure this out as best I
can. Remember, you camera takes good pictures and you are please
with it! This minor bump in the road can and will be overcome.

Steve Bryant
The Canon guy @ 1-800-OK-CANON told me to hook the charger back up
and refresh both batteries...I didn't initially realize that it
took that long to completely refresh and that the charger refreshes
them one at a time...

He said if that doesn't do the trick to ship the camera, batteries,
and charger with warranty card and bill of sale to Canon's east
coast domicile in Jamesburg, NJ. --- 5-8 business days to get it
diagnosed and fixed...

Really blows my mind...in the 1000s and 1000s of shots I've made
since mid-March with this incredible picture-taking machine, I've
had only one ERR99 --- whatever that is --- then reset the camera
and all was well. Never been dropped, abused in any way...baby'd
the thing like it was my very own infant kid!

Guess it goes to show you if you're gonna try to make $$$ shooting
pictures you need a back up...maybe a 10D is in the future, who
knows...can't afford another 1D, that's for sure...really couldn't
afford my initial 1D, but with my attempting to start a sports
photo biz, a 10D or D60 wouldn't have cut the mustard for the bulk
of the stuff I shoot...

Just hope this dilemma will be resolved quickly and nothing else is
lurking in the future...all I've got now is an A2E and a Nikon
FM...but I'm gonna wait 'til the 1D gets going again...digital has
spoiled me over the last couple of months...

This is an incredible rig and nothing is perfect...life ain't
perfect...but it's a ***** when you spend over $4000 for a camera
along with its whistles and bells and flashes and extra battery and
all that jazz and the camera body goes KAPUEE in a mere two
months...

Can any of you long-term 1D folks out there give me any input into
whether I'll be dealing with repairs, etc. on a relatively routine
basis? Talked to a local daily newspaper Nikon D1 shooter and he
told me a couple of their bodies cameras have been shipped back and
forth to the Nikon repair gurus numerous times...

Is the 5-8 day Canon repair time frame to be believed? Hope
so...needed my 1D this afternoon to shoot some motorcross --- a
first time for me --- but I'll have to wait a couple of Saturdays
it looks like!

Panic-strickened EOS Grunt...
 
First, take a deep breath or two, count to ten and realize that
this problem can be figured out and fixed. My guess is that you
have a charger problem.

Now, to bring some rational thought into the process. You need to
determine if the batteries have enough capacity to hold a
meaningful charge. Sometimes, especially with rechargable
batteries, they loose their ability to accept the recharging
electrical current and thus have no electrons to send back out to
the electrical device that they are intended to power. This is a
function of what is going on chemically inside the battery and can
relate to shelf life, storage conditions, and other factors.

The first thing that I would do would be to take the camera to a
Canon dealer (or if you know someone with a 1D) and see if they
would try a fully-charged battery in your camera. Then look at the
battery indicator and try out your camera. If the camera works
fine, it may be the battery or the charger. Also, the camera may
have some type of internal electrical short that really discharges
the batteries quickly. If so, this is not a huge problem and can
be fixed, but I still lean toward the charger as the culprit.

The EOS 1D uses a Canon NP-E3 1650mAh, 12V Ni-MH rechargeable
battery @19.8 WH (according to Phil's review). This means that an
average new fully-charged (100% capacity) battery could illuminate
a 12 Volt, 20 Watt bulb (19.8 W actually), while maintaining an
output voltage of no less than 12 Volts for one hour. If you can
take the batteries to a shop like "Interstate Batteries," they can
probably test the batteries under load. Alternately, you could
hook up a 12 V 20W bulb across the output terminals of the battery
and measure the voltage while lighting the bulb for about 15
seconds. The light bulb should be brightly illuminated and the
voltage should stay above 12 Volts.

Try these things and post your results. I'm an electrical
engineer, and I'll be glad to help you figure this out as best I
can. Remember, you camera takes good pictures and you are please
with it! This minor bump in the road can and will be overcome.

Steve Bryant
The Canon guy @ 1-800-OK-CANON told me to hook the charger back up
and refresh both batteries...I didn't initially realize that it
took that long to completely refresh and that the charger refreshes
them one at a time...

He said if that doesn't do the trick to ship the camera, batteries,
and charger with warranty card and bill of sale to Canon's east
coast domicile in Jamesburg, NJ. --- 5-8 business days to get it
diagnosed and fixed...

Really blows my mind...in the 1000s and 1000s of shots I've made
since mid-March with this incredible picture-taking machine, I've
had only one ERR99 --- whatever that is --- then reset the camera
and all was well. Never been dropped, abused in any way...baby'd
the thing like it was my very own infant kid!

Guess it goes to show you if you're gonna try to make $$$ shooting
pictures you need a back up...maybe a 10D is in the future, who
knows...can't afford another 1D, that's for sure...really couldn't
afford my initial 1D, but with my attempting to start a sports
photo biz, a 10D or D60 wouldn't have cut the mustard for the bulk
of the stuff I shoot...

Just hope this dilemma will be resolved quickly and nothing else is
lurking in the future...all I've got now is an A2E and a Nikon
FM...but I'm gonna wait 'til the 1D gets going again...digital has
spoiled me over the last couple of months...

This is an incredible rig and nothing is perfect...life ain't
perfect...but it's a ***** when you spend over $4000 for a camera
along with its whistles and bells and flashes and extra battery and
all that jazz and the camera body goes KAPUEE in a mere two
months...

Can any of you long-term 1D folks out there give me any input into
whether I'll be dealing with repairs, etc. on a relatively routine
basis? Talked to a local daily newspaper Nikon D1 shooter and he
told me a couple of their bodies cameras have been shipped back and
forth to the Nikon repair gurus numerous times...

Is the 5-8 day Canon repair time frame to be believed? Hope
so...needed my 1D this afternoon to shoot some motorcross --- a
first time for me --- but I'll have to wait a couple of Saturdays
it looks like!

Panic-strickened EOS Grunt...
I've got a problem with a 1D, not a 1Ds, but that's what the Canon rep "Jeff" said...5-8 "working days". Guess I'll be looking at at least 2 weeks before I'll get it back in my hands...hope the repair time will be 5 and not 8 days...it's pretty obvious that I'm gonna lose some bucks from shoots while its being repaired up in NJ...the only back up rigs I have is an EOS A2E and a Nikon FM and there's at least 2 shoots I've got lined up that I wouldn't even attempt using film...way, way too much work and hassel after the initial shoot...digital has spoiled me over the last couple of months

!
 

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