Interesting article on DxO about 5D III and D800 resolving power

Started Apr 4, 2013 | Discussions thread
schmegg Veteran Member • Posts: 5,768
Re: Interesting article on DxO about 5D III and D800 resolving power

Mikael Risedal wrote:

schmegg wrote:

Mikael Risedal wrote:

Tizzio wrote:

Hans Kruse wrote:

See this

I have both the 5D mkIII with the Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II and 70-200 f/2.8L IS II (and more) and the D800E with the Nikon 70-200 f/2.8VRII. To my eyes there is little to distinguish the resolution between the 5D III with the 70-200 and the D800E with the 70-200.

I'm also shooting with a Phase One IQ160 and the resolution of the 60MP of this camera is heads and shoulders above the two DSLRs! There are no measurements of the Phase One cameras with lenses on DxO, but my feel is that the IQ160 resolves at least 50MP or more with the best lenses.

Same as you Hans, I have the 5D3 and the D800E; I don't see major difference in resolution except one thing.... I hate the color tonality of the D800E, it looks artificial!

In the film era, Nikon reigns supreme, not anymore for their latest crop of digital cams....

Been thinking of off-loading all my Nikon gears; but not an easy task with 4 bodies and thirty some old and new nikkors that I never touched....... sad!

Try  to understand how a camera work and  which profiles are you using? how can the color tonality looks artificial when the CFA in Nikon is better than in a Canon with thinner CFA and less Colour accuracyn  than Nikon. Are yountalking about JPG out from the camera?  If you do not se any difference between a d800 and a 21-22 Mp sensor  I suggest you start to use a compact camera, they are usually good enough

This was taken today, I have no problem to se resolution difference between one of my 5dmk2 and d800,  sigma 35/1,4 + d800 and 5dmk2 together with Canon 35/1,4   and f-5,6

How about you?

If those are 100% crops then I suggest that the difference is trivial unless you intend to produce extremely large final output.

BTW - it's quite obvious you've sharpened the D800 fairly aggressively.

the sharpening is the same, trivial, what did you expect? there are some more resolution

I'm sorry - but I don't buy that for a second. Look at the sky in the D800 image in particular - though it's easy to see with the haloing around high contrast edges too.

The D800 has clearly been oversharpened - and the amount applied is different - as can now be seen below since you've posted images that actually appear to have been sharpened by a similar amount (perhaps).

Why do stuff like that - it's sloppy at best and disingenuous at worst. And it's not the first time I've seen you do it either.

here is the pictures again, In addition to the actual size  you can also see more details and fewer estimations errors , artifacts in the Nikon, watch the wire that can not be reproduced separated by Canons resolution

That's what I would expect. Pretty much the same as you see between a 5D3 and a 7D if you sharpen-up the 7D to match. Makes sense too, as the 7D has pretty similar pixel density to the D800.

Both are now oversharpened! LOL!

I guess it's one way to exaggerate the artifacts etc., but I'm not finding it a particularly useful comparison. Why not just post the images with no sharpening? At least then we can judge the straight files without knowing that you've been playing around with the sharpening slider.

But my comment still stands. The difference exists for sure. And it is quite small in relevance unless you intend to be producing very large output or you go peeping at 100% looking for differences.

And more amazingly - that's what DxO have found too!

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