SSD performance

Started Mar 29, 2013 | Discussions thread
Jim Cockfield Forum Pro • Posts: 16,333
very fast SSD, very fast CPU, clean install...

Richard wrote:

Jim Cockfield wrote:

The OP has a 512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD installed now. See this post where he gave more detail on what he's using:

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I did not read every post.

IMO, that's the *very best* SSD (consumer level anyway) you're going to find at a reasonable price (and it's more expensive than most consumer models), since their older Samsung 830 series drives have amazing reliability compared to virtually any other SSD model based on endurance testing I've looked at, and the newer 840 Pro is using the same flash memory type (only the newer model is much faster now)

I would agree, the Pro model is faster than the others.

That's why it's either at the top of most SSD benchmarks for performance (or very close to the top) in the review of the standard 840 (versus 840 Pro) model you linked to in your post.  Note where a Samsung 840 Pro was already much faster than the standard 840 in the review you linked to.

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I was trying to explain why a youtube vid of a laptop with an old 830 samsung drive booted faster than anything I have seen before and faster than his new drive, and was not able to do it, and since all the other videos were more in line I concluded the person is doing something other than installing fresh something either with the vid or turning off stuff. But either way it was not something I could replicate.

Yea...  The OP has a fast CPU (Core i7-2630QM), which is a Quad Core Sandy Bridge model; has 16GB of memory, and one of the fastest SSDs you can buy (512GB Samsung 840 Pro), and has already done a clean install of Win 7 and updated all firmware and drivers.

It also looks like he's tried disabling startup programs and services using msconfig to try and speed up the bootup process from what I understand from previous posts.

So, it sounds to me like expectations are just too high.    Sure, you could buy an even faster model using one of the latest Ivy Bridge CPUs (Core i7 3xxx models) and get some increase in CPU performance.

But, from my perspective, given the specs of the OP's current system, it should be "good enough".   Just because he found a youtube video of a system booting faster doesn't mean that every system is going to boot that fast, as there is no telling what the person producing that video did to get startup speed that fast (as disabling extra drivers and programs that you need just to get fast boot is probably not a wise idea).

I don't understand why the boot speed is that important.   I'd just use "sleep" for when you want to save a bit of power, versus shutting down and restarting the machine.   Experimenting with hibernate to see if that helps for when you want to save even more power is another option (but, with 16GB of memory installed, hibernate is going to need to write a snapshot of that memory to disk and reload it again when you resume, meaning it may not help much due to the large file size of hiberfil.sys used for that purpose).

IOW, the more memory you have installed, the longer hibernate is going to take to shutdown and restart your PC, because it's writing and reading back in a larger file size that represents a snapshot of your memory when you use hibernate.

It's the OP's money.  But, I'd leave good enough alone versus spending more money on a different model.   Personally, I see no good reason to have startup speed that fast anyway.   I never even pay much attention to boot speed on my PCs, even with my laptops and netbooks.   It's not a big issue.   More important to me is how well the machine performs after it's finished booting into an OS.

Or, as I mentioned in earlier posts, perhaps consider moving to Windows 8 instead, as it's specifically designed to shutdown and startup faster.  Basically, it uses a technique that's similar to hibernate to speed up that process.  It's not the same thing though (my guess is that Microsoft is using some type of compression algorithm to write a smaller snapshot of critical functions to disk, versus saving everything in memory like hibernate works.    From my perspective, that's about the only good thing about Windows 8 (faster startup and shutdown).

Then, just use one of the third party programs like the free Classic Shell for Windows so that you don't need to see the Metro UI at all and have a traditional style start menu setup again.   That way, it should look and feel just like Win 7, only with faster startup and shutdown if you really need faster speed for those processes.

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