I think Thom was right, again...

Started Mar 26, 2013 | Discussions thread
photoreddi Veteran Member • Posts: 7,947
Agreed? Nope.

Dave Luttmann wrote:

Lance B wrote:

Dave Luttmann wrote:

My Nikon F5, along with all my film cameras from 110 to 4x5 all have had no need for continuous upgrades.  I know some will say DSLR users arent forced to upgrade.  Funny, I dont seem them all running around wirh their 3mp Canon D30 anymore. 

I think you're looking at it from the wrong perspective, so to speak.

Forget the outdated notion that a camera is an "almost for life" purchase or maybe a "once in 10 year" purchase like they were in the film days but then you spend the rest of your life buying film and paying for it to be developed, or at best buying film and buying the chemicals and paper etc and doing it at home.

Nowadays, the camera is the film, so, you don't buy a roll of film every week nor need to pay for the processing, but you save that money and buy a camera every 2-3 years, or if you are a high frame count shooter and always desire the latest or a pro/semi pro, you may upgrade every year to get that edge.

When looked at it this way digital, is for most keen photogs, a much more economical way to take photos. If you look at a P&S or even a low cost DSLR, there is no way on this earth that film could even begin to compete cost-wise with digital.

Maybe for a "keen" photog....that said, my film and processingis built in to the cost of wedding and portait sessions.

It appears that you're trying to win the argument by being deceptive. From what you've posted before, film represents an extremely small percentage of your wedding and portrait sessions. Not only that, the digital cameras that you said back in 2003 and 2004 that were able to replace your film cameras for most of your work were Canon's 3mp D30 and 6mp 10D. Part of the reason for this is convenience and acceptable results, but another part is due to digital's ability to get you results faster and more economically.

you may not see medium format at the ball game, or race track or for the press...but the best landscapes will not come from a 6MP sensor either. As far as making a living from "average" pics, I'd say there are just as many poor shots from digital users as there are from medium format shooters.

Don't get me worong, I use digital for most of my wedding and portait shooting via a 10D and D30. But the highest rez shots with color and noise equal to digital comes from my medium format gear.


I do big enlargements and a 6 MP sensor is not enough. So the D70 is NOT FINE. The new D2X may work well....but 22MP is finally enough to make me consider giving up medium and large format film work.


My wedding and portrait workflow is now about 99% digital. I only use the RB67 for large groups that will need a big enlargement. The film bodies now are there only for emergency backup.

For my personal work, which is mainly landscape and architectural, I use the RB67 and my 4x5. This is probably for about 90% of my personal work where I feel digital lacks...especially in the area of black & white work.


And finally a more recent gushing comment about some of the cameras that you're bought since 2004.  I can understand why of the three replies to your previous post you answer two but decided not to answer mine, which asked how often you've upgraded your film cameras. Maybe it's because you've bought too many film and digital cameras to support your contention that it's only digital cameras that are frequently upgraded.

The D800 is currently the benchmark camera for image quality that other brands are compared to.  It amazes me all the time.  I thought my D700 was already better than many cameras..but the D800 takes it to a new level.


So tell us (even if the upgrades weren't continuous), how many 35mm film cameras have you owned/used. You may not have upgraded them as often as you've upgraded your DSLRs, but there were probably very good reasons that you did upgrade them, reasons that wouldn't apply to film SLRs, none of which measure up to any of today's decent entry level DSLRs, not even your F5.


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