Why the x100s files are lacking

Started Mar 29, 2013 | Discussions thread
photoreddi Veteran Member • Posts: 7,973
Struck a defensive nerve?

mr moonlight wrote:


What this means is that if for whatever reason, you need to use a certain aperture and shutter speed (to stop motion or to get a wider depth of field), to get the same exposure, the Fuji cameras would have to use a higher ISO. It's only a difference of almost one stop, but it's hard to say that this is insignificant when the same persons that say this might have once been amazed at how the X100 produced as clean or cleaner images at ISO 3200 than brand X APS-C cameras did at ISO 1600. Maybe some of that super ISO was just due to the way Fuji calibrated their ISO values. Here's the exposure data I got from the downloaded studio images.

X100S : ISO 0200 : 1/30 @ f/8.0
X-Pro1 : ISO 0200 : 1/30 @ f/8.0
D7100 : ISO 0200 : 1/50 @ f/8.0
D7000 : ISO 0200 : 1/40 @ f/9.0
K-5 II : ISO 0200 :  1/40 @ f/8.0
GH3 : ISO 0200 : 1/80 @ f/6.3
T4i : ISO 0200 : 1/60 @ f/8.0
OM-D E-M5 : ISO 0200 : 1/50 @ f/6.3
X100S : ISO 6400 : 1/1000 @ f/8.0
X-Pro1 : ISO 6400 : 1/1000 @ f/8.0
D7100 : ISO 6400 : 1/1600 @ f/8.0
D7000 : ISO 6400 : 1/1600 @ f/9.0
K-5 II : ISO 6400 :  1/1250 @ f/8.0
GH3 : ISO 6400 : 1/2500 @ f/6.3
T4i : ISO 6400 : 1/2000 @ f/8.0
OM-D E-M5 : ISO 6400 : 1/1600 @ f/6.3

Again, in case you've forgotten, Fuji's cameras aren't at any disadvantage if there's no penalty incurred using slow shutter speeds and you can use  low ISO values. But if you've reached the point where you don't want to push the ISO any higher due to compromised image quality, there are other cameras that could have.

I don't know if you can use this as a benchmark since I don't think DPR ever claimed that their lights are always at the exact same intensity and there will also be slight variations when it comes to lenses too. It's always pretty close, but we're only talking a difference of 1/2 to 1 stop here.

Please, you'd have to be an unrealistic conspiracy theorist to believe that every time a Fuji camera is reviewed the lighting is dimmer and every time a Nikon or Canon camera is tested the lighting is brighter. The difference may be about 1/2 stop when Fuji's cameras are compared with some cameras but it's very close to a full stop when they're compared with Nikon and Canon cameras and the differences are consistent. If you want to believe that one stop is only one stop then you've make a point that you can hold onto forever. But when Fuji's next camera is one stop better than the X100s and X-Pro1, just remember that it's also only one stop better, so why upgrade?

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