Mirrorless Recommendation ( Sony Vs Olympus? )

Started Mar 22, 2013 | Discussions thread
Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 13,980
Re: Mirrorless Recommendation ( Sony Vs Olympus? )

kev777zero wrote:

As to the lens size debate, yes overall NEX lenses are larger, but there are a few E mount lenses now that are quite small too. Here's a list:

16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 PZ OSS

16mm f/2.8

20mm f/2.8

35mm f/1.8 OSS

Some of those lenses are pretty bad. And at f2.8 they mean higher ISO compared to 1.4, 1.7 and 1.8 m43 lenses of course. Also, DOF is somewhat worse. Also important that most of these lenses only get reasonable stopped down whereas m43 lenses are very good wide open.

The lens size difference isn't that drastic especially when you look at some of the larger Panasonic lenses. Panny's 14-140mm & NEX's 18-200mm LE only differ in 20grams (both having image stabilization). And check out Oly's new 12-50mm kit lens!

That one is weathersealed and has a macrofunction...

Panny 14-140 is specialized for video, but you can of course get the 14-150 Oly too.

EPM2 w 14-150 comp to NEX3F w 18-200

It is also 785 vs 545 gram. The Sony weighs 240 gram or 40% more. That is a considerable difference.

What makes NEX lenses seemingly humongous are the tiny bodies (ironically these APS-C sensor bodies are smaller than m4/3 ones), which I agree could make the ergonomics awkward at times.

Well..APS-c sensors simply means bigger lenses.

Having shot both m4/3 (Oly + 14-150 + 20mm f/1.7) & NEX each a year exclusively, my vote goes to NEX. Yes there are less native lenses (15 vs 30?), but then again most folks don't need that many lenses to shoot. NEX is always going to be ahead in the sensor department because a) it's APS-C b) they make sensors for everyone! However there are more m4/3 fanboys out there so you'll definitely see more votes for m4/3. You can get great results either way though.

If you have the budget check out Fuji X, they have some pretty cool options too!

Which Oly and which NEX? Fanboyism is not an argument. We can simply look at the scores of the specific cams compared here: EPM2 and NEXF3. The sensor of the NEX3F is not better. It is on par throughout the ISO range. A blanket statement liek APS-c always will be better is not very helpfull I think. We need to look at the facts when they are there and they are readily available. Canon APS-c sensors for instance are clearly worse than the current m43 sensors....

It is also a fact that m43 lenses tend to be much better and indeed very good wide open. It is not secret that Sony lenses are still criticized for the lack of IQ. Also, for what he does he cannot put a good flash unit on this NEX F3. And while Focuspeaking is nice, you can shoot manually very well with the m43 cams aswell and with the Oly those lenses simply are stablized. Not so on the Sony. A big advantage for low light shooting.

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