Nikon D7100 crop factor

Started Mar 15, 2013 | Discussions thread
Marty4650 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,053
Re: Marty, this post is why people leave Olympus

dave gaines wrote:

And not just your post Marty. A lot of naysayers have been proclaiming Olympus 4/3 is a dead system. They've kept it up every since Oly did not release another DSLR immediately after releasing the E-5 (only 3 yers ago). But if you look at the chain of events that have beset Olympus, the global economy, a Tsunami and an accounting debacle that plunged their stock value, it's not hard to understand why Oly has not released any new DSLRs in addition to the Pens and OM-D they were already developing.

If the OP came around for the first time and read posts like yours he'd want to abandon Olympus.

Look.... lets be honest here. There is nothing we can say on an internet forum that will impact Olympus' marketing and sales decisions.

Some of you folks are giving the realists among us way too much credit.

And I believe that tsunami affected everyone, not just Olympus. I believe both Sony and Nikon lost production facilities. Olympus was not directly affected, although there certainly must have been some secondary effects. Look at the timeline:

  • 5/2008 - Last newly designed 4/3 lens, the 9-18mm
  • 5/2008 - Last 4/3 lens released. An updated version of the 14-54mm from 2003
  • 2/2009 - Last newly designed 4/3 camera released, the E620
  • 9/2010 - Last 4/3 body released. An updated version of the E3 from 2007
  • 4/2011 - Massive earthquake off Indonesian shore causes tsunami to hit Japan

The E-5 was a great value when it was released. It answered most of the calls from loyal Olympus 4/3 users for a greatly reduced AA filter, the newer sensor that was already in the E-30, A new media card format to replace the xD card, and better resolution for those SHG lenses. When it was released, early adopters praised it in large numbers. Now it needs an upgrade to include the latest Sony Sensor or one better than what's in the OM-D so it can compete with the likes of a D7100, etc. For what they are selling for used, it is still a great value.

Rather than waiting to see if there will be an upgrade that can compete with the likes of the D7100, the OP decided to buy a D7100. I think that was a wise decision.

But now Olympus has verified that a new DSLR is coming later this year. We just don't know if it will be an entry level model E-xxx, E-xx or a new Pro level E-7, or one of each.

Or perhaps it will be a M4/3 camera with some sort of hybrid AF? Is the glass half empty, or is it completely empty? No one knows for sure.

Olympus is still a good value for photo enthusiasts. The great optics are affordable. Telephoto lenses are much more affordable with Olympus than FF and easier to achive long reach than with APS-C sensors like the D7100.

The E5 was a high end niche product. So are those wonderful SHG lenses. Olympus got out of the value market when they stopped selling E520 two lens kits. I'm sorry but $1,800 cameras and $2,400 lenses are not mass market items. But, you are right in a sense. They are "good values in that high end niche," but only if you compare them to pro grade cameras and lenses with sensors four times larger.

IBIS means every Olympus lens is image stabalized, unlike Canon and Nikon which make you pay a premium for it with every lens. The IQ of the 50 mm f/2, 14-54 mm and 50-200 mm are great values.

Sony and Pentax also make DSLRs and DSLTs that have IBIS, but you are right about those lenses.

My post to the OP above was all about the added cost of abandoning Olympus and buying into Nikon APS-C. And the upgrade path for Nikon is an expensive D600, D800 or D4, with a whole new set of fast, f/2.8 lenses. If the OP buys DX format lensesthat are designed for APS-C , comparable to the Olympus kit lenses he has now, then he'll have to replace those DX lenses when and if he wants to upgrade to full frame.

Three really is no good upgrade path for APS-C, since both Canon and Nikon don't make very many upgrade lenses for that format. They force you to move to FF for their best lenses, which means you pay a lot and have a larger and heavier lens, or you simply upgrade to a better DX camera and continue to use DX lenses.

But the good lenses do exist, if you are willing to use heavier lenses designed for a much larger camera.

Right now... the best upgrade path probably exists in M4/3, with cameras and lenses at various price points and quality levels. The OM-D with a 45mm or 75mm lens, or a GH-3 with a 12-35mm or 35-100mm lens will beat the pants off an E-5... and quite a few high grade APS-C DSLRs too.

Sorry for the rant.

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