Could this be the reason why there are fewer clients calling?

Started Feb 12, 2013 | Discussions thread
Biggs23 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,075
Re: Could this be the reason why there are fewer clients calling?

ptox wrote:

Biggs23 wrote:

Things ('solutions') that are suggested for real life that are unrealistic are nonsense. It's not an either or.

The problem with you minimalist-government types is that you have no answer for the next logical question, which is if not the government, then who? Since dissolute people don't simply disappear, someone has to deal with them (to put it bluntly).

US! The citizens should be the ones responsible for each other. Our families, our friends, the widows and orphans and the poor and the needy. These are who WE are called to help and to aid. Directly, with our own hands and with the strength of our communities, not indirectly through mandatory taxes paid to in ineffectual government.

In places where government is not the solution (because it can't or won't), that means slums and shantytowns, disease and massive crime--of the sort that doesn't stay where it begins. I suspect the purity of your ideology would suffer once these began to appear on the outskirts of your hometown.

Incorrect. The government is virtually never the solution. In places where those things are happening it's a break down of community.

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Well, it's nice that you have such faith in humanity. In particular, your belief that the social cohesion of small monocultural communities is attainable in massive, diverse and capitalistic societies is quite touching.

And yet, I'm reminded of something someone recently said about unrealistic suggestions and nonsense...

You're welcome to believe what you will. However, I've seen this happen with my own eyes. I know what it looks like when communities get involved and citizens become neighbors rather than strangers. When the government handout isn't there and when dependence isn't an option it's absolutely amazing what we can do together. The problem is that the lie of chronic dependency has eroded away our sense of personal responsibility. Instead of doing for and thinking about our neighbors we just figure that they'll seek government aid. It's the foundational reason behind the break down in our society and it's the reason that we see so much crime and so much poverty in a country where no one should want for anything.

Anyway, I know your little kumbaya moment wasn't really serious; it's just the standard response of a libertarian who thinks he'd be better off with less government but has to say something other than "don't give a flock" when asked how the weaker among us would survive.

It was completely serious and I'll go to my grave believing it.

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