Veteran XP1 User Now Venting

Started Feb 11, 2013 | Discussions thread
Ariston Senior Member • Posts: 2,401
Re: Veteran XP1 User Now Venting

designdog wrote:

nixda wrote:

I am not sure I understand what you mean. What is it that you want to get out of PS that you can't get by going through C1 first? After all, you need to go through ACR first to get your images into PS. That should be fairly equivalent for final image touchup.

When you use C1, or any other raw processor except LR and PS, you must save the file to a jpeg or tiff before moving to Photoshop. You can no longer edit it as a raw file. Say you did this or that edit in PS, and you wanted to readjust the white balance, or the tone. If you brought the raw file into Photoshop from ACR you could do that. Also, as a smart object from Lightroom.

With the tiff/jpeg from C1, you are stuck. Also, many Lightroom presets work specifically with raw files. They use camera profiles (VSCO) and Lightroom/PS uses lens and camera profiles in the edit.

Adobe did a good job with the X100 raw files. They even have lens profiles for the camera and the wide lens adapter. It all stopped when Fuji whent to the X Trans. (I think the in camera processing might do the same thing for the Fuji x lenses, but I am not sure if this works on raw files.)

It would be interesting to find out how many people put their workflow above equipment. Given that any decent camera system nowadays can be used to take decent pictures that will satisfy most situations, my question is: has software become more important than hardware? I know for many people it has, but I'd be interested in finding out for how many, and whether that fraction is growing or shrinking.

For me, this is not a case of workflow above equipment. I certainly enjoy my camera equipment. I also enjoy the process of selecting, processing, and publishing images. One is not more important than the other, but one need not subjugate the other.

Finally, to the other posters: let's lay off the snide and critical remarks. I am just expressing my frustration here and it does not have to get personal. I think I am not alone in this regard. If anyone has some constructive comments (not "stamp your foot" of "sell your camera" very creative and helpful to the forum) I am happy to dialogue...

I am in the exact same boat as you are. like you, I'm pretty much use my entire workflow on Adobe softwares with all the nooks and crannies that comes with it. I love it. with the Fuji, not so much, but I manage to live with it with the workarounds. being no stranger to C1, I have no problem using the software although it can be complicated and the learning curve can be brutal. of course, you lose some of those cool stuff that comes with the Adobe software. but can still be quite useful in some way. just need to learn them. if you hate learning, then it could be a problem. in my case, it's not.  software investments can be costly, I expected it. if I can buy or spent over a $1,000 worth of camera bodies and lenses, why can't I spent for a one time investment of $300 or less on PP softwares.

anyway, you'd be surprised how easy it is to use SilkyPix (again, I'm no stranger to this engine). it is very competent and can give really nice results better than Adobe's for X-trans.  anyway, it's been ages since I have used ACDSee Pro and I'm not sure if they support X-trans. like the SilkyPix, it's also one of the easy to understand and use pp softwares out there. it also gives nice results.

as I have contemplated on this matter with regards to X-trans with all the complaints regarding the support, I have learned to live and be happy with it. the main reason why I got an X-trans system is because of the CLEAN LOWLIGHT images I can get immediately with the camera with less processing work and amazing DR. I have grown to appreciate and love jpegs as is once again. and I love Fuji color. so it makes no sense to buy the Fuji system if you wanted images to look similar to that of other systems. fine tuning texture and detail sharpening is the only thing that is worth working on raw since the results are pretty much cooked or handed to you already. now it's up to you if these matters to you more or not. for me, they do. that is why I would continue to invest on Fuji.

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