New Epson r3000 prints darker than old Epson 4000

Started Feb 2, 2013 | Discussions thread
jtoolman Veteran Member • Posts: 6,779
Re: New Epson r3000 prints darker than old Epson 4000

Carolyn S wrote:

jtoolman wrote:

I am glad, but all he did was set you up to let the printer adjust color and use the adobe RGB color space. WHen you let the printer control color you have two gamma settings 1.8 and 2.2

Yes, that is true....but now it works! He set the gamma on 1.8, but said I could fiddle around with that.

Which one did he set it to? And when he switched you over to letting the printer control color, did he then turn it off in the Photoshop Printer dialogue window?

Yes, he did

So basically you are no longer using color management and simply letting the printer take over control. But now all is working and so you can see that the R3000 is quite a great printer.

Yes, and I feel so much better about the printer and I am not looking around for how to send it back!!

This will work for you as long as you are using OEM ink and OEM papers, through there are some other makers papers that will work quite work letting the driver control color. BUT when the time comes for you to begin trying other maker's papers such as fine art papers, you will have to give up your current approach and begin using their ICC profiles through Photoshop.

Ah, I see what you mean. That hadn't occurred to me. But I will just have to be careful and use the right ICC profiles if I try another paper than what I am using. That will be in my future. I will try Fine Art in the future. I wrote myself a note to change to PHotoshop managing the color and using an appropriate ICC profle when I try those papers. For the time being I am quite satisfied.

Thank you.


When I print with the printer driver ( rare ) I set the GAMMA to 2.2. Gamma 1.8 if for MACs. WHY? Becuase MAC displays are really, really right ( Your problem still ) So you are telling the printer by using Gamma 1.8 it to artificially lighten the print for you so it will look closer to your incorrectly set monitor. SUre it works but it's really not correct.

I do hope you are not editing and saving back to your original image file. Which will irreversably affect the tone mapping of your image file.

So when you do switch to 3rd party papers and they provide you will an ICC profile for it and your printer's inks, you will not longer be able to use your work workaround. Eventually you will have to hardware calibrate your monitor.

There is simply no way around it. You have printer fully capable of full proffessional quality output but instead your are printing with it as if you were printing from a cheap little 6 color office printer by using the printer driver having to use the wrong Gamma in order to make do, instead of a proper color managed work flow.

Sorry about the way I may sound to you but believe me, I am leading you down the correct path.


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