Another shooting, Albuquerque this time

Started Jan 20, 2013 | Discussions thread
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Re: Dumb car analogy

Marcamera wrote:


Chato wrote;

And not a random shooting. Kid could have used a baseball bat, but that wouldn't make the news.

However, this is one of the biggest MYTHS out there regarding gun violence.

Ie: that the perpetrator would have used "other means" IF guns were not available.

There is NO data or evidence to suggest that IF guns were not easily available...that these shooting spree killers would have indeed used other methods to kill.

Killing with a firearm is easy, clinical, sterile, distant, dissassociated, etc.

Murdering a group of people at close-contact range with a bat, knife, iron bar, shovel is not only a far greater challenge it is also much harder psychologically.

I suspect, that IF guns had not been available...that most of these shooting spree killers would NOT have killed large numbers or groups of people at all.

They may have become regular muderers (ie: one at a time, etc)....but certainly not mass/group killers of the type we have seen lately.


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"No problem can be solved at the level of consciousness which created it" - Albert Einstein

Makes me think of arguments of gun maniacs, the more people are armed , the safer it is.

Car argument:

If there is a place on the road, where caution is required because there is a winding road stretch, with frequent accidents, it would make sense to drive through it as fast as possible to limit the amount of time that one is on that dangerous stretch.

Makes sense, gun guys, no?


One could also argue in favour of speed limits on a per person basis, cram 10 teenagers into a vehicle allows them to go at 10 x the speed limit.

Just imagine the records a school bus could set.

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