Another shooting, Albuquerque this time

Started Jan 20, 2013 | Discussions thread
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Re: The biggest MYTH regarding GUN violence.

RossAndrew wrote:

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Chato wrote;

And not a random shooting. Kid could have used a baseball bat, but that wouldn't make the news.

You don't think that some one could have overpowered him if he only had a baseball bat

One man in the house, he goes for him first. After that, not a problem for a determined psycho. In fact that's the point. Who but a determined psycho would commit these kinds of acts?

I'll be good money that this kid was leaving behind him a trail of warning bells - But you can't commit people in America until they actually try to kill someone. Not because of the law - But because we simply have no place to put them.


However, this is one of the biggest MYTHS out there regarding gun violence.

Ie: that the perpetrator would have used "other means" IF guns were not available.

There is NO data or evidence to suggest that IF guns were not easily available...that these shooting spree killers would have indeed used other methods to kill.

Other than the fact that 40 percent of US homicides are not done with fireams, you are absolutely right.

I guess 60% are done with firearms then A?



Killing with a firearm is easy, clinical, sterile, distant, dissassociated, etc.

Murdering a group of people at close-contact range with a bat, knife, iron bar, shovel is not only a far greater challenge it is also much harder psychologically.

I suspect, that IF guns had not been available...that most of these shooting spree killers would NOT have killed large numbers or groups of people at all

They may have become regular muderers (ie: one at a time, etc)....but certainly not mass/group killers of the type we have seen lately.


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